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“The last publisher who tried this, Crossgen”

It’s amazing how many of Crossgen’s weird ideas Marvel has since reused. Remember Comicsontheweb.com, the original Marvel Unlimited?

“Spider-Man Renew your wows ”

Best typo ever. (If it was there in previous months, I completely missed it.

“67- INFERNO LTD
Even if it holds onto its audience a little better than other titles like it, it’s disappointing that it’s not selling much more than Little Marvel or Squadron Sinister.”

I was very disappointed by this one. Still finished it because I’m an addict, but just saying.

I wonder how different all these drops would have been in Secret Wars had marched on at its originally-planned, thunderous pace. The main book is still great, but my enthusiasm for the tie-ins has definitely been hurt. Compare it to Age of Apocalypse–four months of wall to wall excitement and then gone before anyone could take a breath.

OMG, that’s one typo, good catch Niels! :p
I apologize to Joelle Jones because “-if we forget her participation to Ultimate Spider-Man 150 years ago.” could make you think she’s way older than she is :p

“Sure, there will be a lot of issue #1s launching, but with numbers like that, less than 250K for the relaunch of Amazing Spider-Man would be considered a disappointment.”

Xavier, can you please walk me through the math on this. How, in this market, would “less than 250K” be considered a “disappointment”? That seems like a weird and arbitrary metric.

Well, seing that less than 6 months ago, a mini-serie starring spider-man crack the 200K (Renew your wows), the relaunch of the historic main title can’t be expected to do less than that with it’s #1, if not slightly better.
If the market is hard to live on in the long term, it still welcomes #1 with tons of variant very well, especially for a relaunch of an historic Marvel titles. the last time it relaunched, in 2014 it did 570K. The spider-man franchise has been doing very well since then, so saying that it is expected to sell at least half of what it did with its previous relaunch doesn’t seem to me like a bold statement.

With the sales on the RYV, and the many variants offered , it would be surprising if Amazing SM #1 didn’t top 250,000 copies. While I’ll agree with the metric, perhaps “disappointing” isn’t the correct adjective. More than likely, it’ll be the other half dozen SM family titles that will face the challenge of longevity.

Star Wars Journey was a four issue mini not two.

I believe Groot ends with issue six.

I find Dan’s “in this market” note utterly perplexing — market conditions are a *direct result* of Marvel and DC’s actions over the last few years. ASM (2015) #1 shouldn’t sell appreciably worse than ASM (2014) #1 did! If it does, I would submit the problem is the publishing plan, not the market’s reaction to said plan.

Dan Slott said:

” How, in this market, would “less than 250K” be considered a “disappointment”? That seems like a weird and arbitrary metric.”

Mr. Slott,
A couple of questions:
1) What do you feel would be the best metric?
2) What were your expectations for the sale of the new #1, and were they met?
3) Do you think that there has been an appreciable change in “this market” since the last Spidey #1, and, if so, what is it?

Thanks in advance!
Phil

Everyone stay polite please! These are business questions!

Oh-oh. I thought I was being nice!

Phil

Poop–that was supposed to be “uh-oh”. grrr

Everything good about Secret Wars has been outside everything Hickman-written. The 24-issue build-up (or 100+ issue build-up, to be more accurate) was the biggest waste of time in the world, and the main series itself is more Hickman gibberish, but the miniseries have all largely been fun (except Guardians of Knowhere, which is typical Bendis meandering garbage).

Easily Marvel’s best event in . . . geez, I don’t know, since Infinity Gauntlet? Age of Apocalypse? And entirely in spite of anything Hickman has written.

Really? I would say that’s damning with faint praise. I’m finding the only SW books of any interest (apart from the main series — which I think is pretty decent) are the ones that have zero to do with any of the main MU characters (like the Hank Johnson book and maybe Weirdworld). The rest of these expensive “what if?” stories have been fairly dull reading and I regret purchasing most the ones I did and don’t feel I missed anything on the ones I didn’t.)

Marvel relaunching everything with shiny new, more expensive #1s next month will certainly keep them at the top, though.

Oh yeah, I’m not paying for them.

But so far I’ve enjoyed Starlord and Kitty Pryde, Secret Wars 2099, Master of Kungfu . . . Planet Hulk had no ending and barely any characterization, but it was a really fun premise. I’m thrilled that Marvel is encouraging its writers to be as imaginative and playful as they want during this event, given how stringently the main Marvel U. seems to be forced to line up with the films.

why do say ms marvel is a cash cow? i am very curious. i admit im not sure how the business end of comics works. ms marvel gets so much hype, someone at marvel called her the 21st century spider man.
all i see is low sales. 30k a month sure doesnt look like great numbers . its good enough to stay afloat. its good enough to be a cult hit but the book is treated like a hit. if someone can explain why i’d be grateful. thank you

Critical praise doesn’t translate to a cash cow. I, for one, am kind of tired of everyone fawning over the series.

Regarding the Secret Wars event, I’ve enjoyed quite a few of the minis. 1872 is excellent so far. I also have enjoyed Where Monsters Dwell, Marvel Zombies, Thors, Hail Hydra and Red Skull.

Because Ms. Marvel has sold like crazy in trade.