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Just how many more rebooted properties do DC have to see fail before they cry uncle and bring back the proper DCU?

I don’t think that they’ll bring the old DCU back, but I agree with Steve that clearly 52 dcu titles a month is too many. I think all the books suck except for Snyder Batman/Batman Inc, but clearly there are fans out there for stuff like Superman/JLA/GL. Not the case for Firstorm/Hawkman/Grifter/etc.

If the winter of this article had bothered to read the CBR article, he would have noticed that no artists were fired which means they lost their jobs as they were moved to other titles. And can one fire work for hire employees anyways as they work on a contract basis?

I didn’t say anything about artists being fired. I said writers were fired.

And yes, you fire work for hire employees.

I’m still hoping for the announcement of the relaunch of “Mazing Man.

Yeah, you can fire them. Look at Waid/Ringo off FF a few years back. Everyone involved agreed they were fired and then reversed the decision.

I agree, I think DC would never bring back the old DCU. But I do miss the old DCU titles and having them return is the only way I’d go back to buying more than 1 or 2 DC titles. I think this periodic launching and cancelling of titles just reinforces that this New 52 is not working out. Whether it’s because there’s too many titles, or the wrong creative teams are on the wrong books, or editorial is being too hands on, it’s just not as successful as it could have been. This New 52 has allowed me to explore other publishers and I am finding some really great stuff out there. So there is a silver lining for me.

Jeebus. Does anyone there have a clue about how to run a company? It’s like watching the Titanic go down.

It is a bit of fun to watch DC dig through old Who’s Who trying to find enough characters to maintain the “52″. I think it’s Air-Wave’s turn next. (Or does Red Tornado get a solo series?)

Bob Harras: “The main focus on this, and this is the big picture, is we try to take a look at it as, these characters will not go away.”

Ahhh, the goal of New 52 makes much more sense now. There is one surefire way that DC’s trademarked characters will “go away.” Abandonment. “New 52: Where All Our Ducks Are Placed In Rows.”

I would not be surprised if ‘Mazing Man does make an appearance somewhere.

Silly But True

I remember coming on here when the original 52 was announced,then read the DC 52 Omnibus, and said it was boring for the most part. I then predicted the the new DC 52 universe would eventually be a bust. I then remember fanboys defending how great the new DC was,and how wrong I was to knock its mediocrity. I will say it again, The new DC 52 was a hail mary, a last ditch effort to keep most of the line up going,and eventually DC Comics will just publish only Batman,Superman and Green Lantern related titles because just about everything how they publish can`t sell! Nobody cares about the fifth reboot of Blue Beetle, Firestorm,Hawk and Dove and other characters. Nobody cared the first time about these lame characters!
respectfully
“The Amazing Stam’
Make Mine Marvel!

I don’t know that the cancellations on the low-end of the line say anything about the New 52 in general — all of the books they’ve cancelled have been things that weren’t really selling before the New 52. I agree that it seems like they should trim the line down, but maybe the boosts from the constant first issues this treadmill generates is enough to keep it above water. It’d be interesting to look at the sales numbers and see if the benefits of launching a new #1 are diminishing over time, though.

The reality of most of the high sales were do to number ones for Batman,Superman,Green Lantern and Justice League titles, plus all those variants that made the LCS order thousands of extra copies to get.
The new DC 52 will have even lower sales over the next few years as they can`t pull off a whole new reboot again so soon, but the biggest failure was it failed to bring in new readers,as all it did was bring out the speculators who wanted a new number one gimmick variant to flip on Ebay.
respectfully “The Amazing Stam”
Make Mine Marvel!

Not a gobsmacking surprise: I wasn’t reading any of these besides “Sword of Sorcery,” which I will miss, but not terribly. I do appreciate that DC is experimenting, but as it’s been said, they’re stretched pretty thin with 52 books, even if a third of said books are devoted to the Super/Bat/Lantern families (& a third of THOSE are readable, speaking charitably). Can you say “glut”? Somehow Marvel was the Johnny-come-lately who made a line-wide rejiggering work better. I don’t envy Jim Lee when he’s called before the Time-Warner death panel asking where their promised riches are.

I agree with the first poster, Ron. When will they give this up as a long-term failure?

Also Stam, there aren’t bad characters, there’re bad writers. Firestorm and many of the other characters that have been screwed up in the New 52 have a lot of long term fans.

If the books aren’t selling it’s best to kill’em and move on to the next property. Why keep drag the dead horse around the track. Good show DC.

If you approve a pitch for a book, you should give the writer more than three fucking issues before you take him off. It’s a really shitty thing to do and it makes you look like an idiot. If you can’t hire writers that you are happy with then you shouldn’t be in the business of hiring writers.

Didio has to go

Jim Shooter was fired for the New Universe failing (and for being tall) after 9 years of success. When will the Editor’s heads roll?

I can hardly wait for the updated version of the Vince Coletta letter….