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By Susan Easton
In the wake of the recent riots, much attention has been given to the causes of the riots but an issue now at the forefront of press and public concern is the level of punishment being meted out to those convicted of riot-related offences. Reports of first offenders being convicted and imprisoned for thefts of items of small value have raised questions about the purposes of sentencing, the problems of giving exemplary sentences and of inconsistency, as well as the issue of political pressure on sentencers.
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The defense said that the numerous letters of support and an unsolicited petition with over 600 signatures representing cross-sections of the CNMI is enough to attest to the high respect and esteem the defendants hold in the community.
Because it sounds as if an attorney actually tried to convince the Court that the CNMI community supported Tim Villagomez getting a lenient sentence.
The defense counsel said there were about 600 signatures in support of a motion and petition for the court to hand down a probation sentence or a sentence outside of the guidelines.
Other petitions also were submitted to the court on Tuesday.
Judge Munson asked the defense counsel point blank if the signatures represent a cross section of the community. She said she believes it is but is not sure.
And so we see, there is some hedge there. Not a bald-face lie, just a willing belief in total fiction as truth.
The attitude seems to be: Will this fly? What will you believe? What do you want to hear?
Do those signatures really represent a cross-section of the community?
Hell no.
Just look at the comments made by non-family members at the sentencing. Look at the comments posted at the Variety about the sentencing. Read the blogs and see the comments. Go out and talk with people.
The statement that the 600 signatures believably represent a cross-section of the community appears to have been made by Leilani Lujan.
If you had any credibility, Ms. Lujan, you've just lost lost the last little shred of it.
3 Comments on More thoughts on the sentencing ruckus..., last added: 8/7/2009
The family can be so proud Tim and Santos let a mother of a minor child, the wife and sister no less, go down to save their own skin. What tough guys...puke...I mean cowards.
Any man, with his minor child facing growing up without parents, would have confessed, apologized, shown remorse, and told the courts that they will cooperate provided the wife is protected. I would have even lied and said my wife was afraid and did whatever I told her.
I will never vote for any beggar writing those lenancy letters for two limp cowards.
Pillars of community...that should make us all take pause...or puke.
cactus said, on 8/6/2009 7:26:00 PM
What is a "cross-section" of the community supposed to mean in this context? People of various nationalities? Income brackets? Families? Political affiliations? Ages?
It's hard to know how to evaluate the claim to represent a cross-section without a little more information as to what kind of cross-section it purports to be.
Cactus, I thought of that, even as I wrote this post.
I'm pretty sure a cross-section would be more like a random sample, not just some people in a bunch of different categories.
And alas, when you google to define it you get this: definition, which starts with the basic literal definition and then continues with the applicable definition here:
S: (n) cross section (a section created by a plane cutting a solid perpendicular to its longest axis) S: (n) cross section (a sample meant to be representative of a whole population)
So the real question is--were those 600 letters representative of the whole population of the CNMI?
I stick by my answer.
At the least, a cross-section would probably include people who didn't vote for you.
There are many ways the attorney could have dealt with the question. Admitting that it wasn't a random sample or even a representative sample of the community, but even so indicated some impressive support...that might have carried more weight.
A little honesty from the defense team would be oh-so refreshing...
And unrelated to the recent arrests, but interesting because it relates to sentencing of a public official for corruption, New Jersey's former Senator Bryant gets 4 years in jail.
(If Judge Munson looks to other jurisdictions to try to get some parity in sentencing, it's hard to imagine that Tim Villagomez will get anything like the 10 years mentioned in news reports as the presentence report recommendation. If he looks to sentencing here, though, he might consider that these high officials deserve more than the shmoe's in the utility reconnection scam got.)
0 Comments on New Jersey Corruption #2 (and unrelated corruption sentencing...) as of 7/25/2009 1:26:00 AM
The family can be so proud Tim and Santos let a mother of a minor child, the wife and sister no less, go down to save their own skin. What tough guys...puke...I mean cowards.
Any man, with his minor child facing growing up without parents, would have confessed, apologized, shown remorse, and told the courts that they will cooperate provided the wife is protected. I would have even lied and said my wife was afraid and did whatever I told her.
I will never vote for any beggar writing those lenancy letters for two limp cowards.
Pillars of community...that should make us all take pause...or puke.
What is a "cross-section" of the community supposed to mean in this context? People of various nationalities? Income brackets? Families? Political affiliations? Ages?
It's hard to know how to evaluate the claim to represent a cross-section without a little more information as to what kind of cross-section it purports to be.
Cactus, I thought of that, even as I wrote this post.
I'm pretty sure a cross-section would be more like a random sample, not just some people in a bunch of different categories.
And alas, when you google to define it you get this: definition, which starts with the basic literal definition and then continues with the applicable definition here:
S: (n) cross section (a section created by a plane cutting a solid perpendicular to its longest axis)
S: (n) cross section (a sample meant to be representative of a whole population)
So the real question is--were those 600 letters representative of the whole population of the CNMI?
I stick by my answer.
At the least, a cross-section would probably include people who didn't vote for you.
There are many ways the attorney could have dealt with the question. Admitting that it wasn't a random sample or even a representative sample of the community, but even so indicated some impressive support...that might have carried more weight.
A little honesty from the defense team would be oh-so refreshing...