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Fox has already said Drew’s rumor is untrue.

Thanks Chris! I just caught that a short bit ago (the perils of these reports that happen while I’m tucked away in bed). Wouldn’t be the first time a studio denied something that ended up being true though, we’ll see soon enough I’m sure!

Amazing to think it was 35 years ago that the New Mutants lineup consisted of more females than males, and only one of the team, Cannonball, was a WASP male. Try that now and the misogynist-revanchist wing of the net would never let Marvel hear the end of it.

Sixteen heroes and heroines is as far away from the classic, two-tiered, AVENGERS setup as one could envision.

SRS

hey, cool cannonball is in the Avengers, he’s one of my favorites. Maybe now he won’t be portrayed as absolutely incompetent.

Pretty sure you’re incorrect about minorities on The Avengers previously. During Johns run The Falcon and Black Panther were both members. Triathlon and Firebird, Firebird and Living Lightning, etc. at various times.

One of Hickman’s earliest Marvel works was a pretty cool Sunspot/Cannonball buddy story so their inclusion should be entertaining.

Really a shame though that we’re being denied the art skills of one of the industry’s most innovative modern artists due to the demands of being a Marvel architect.

>> This represents perhaps the first time that two minority characters have been on the main Avengers at the same time, I believe >>

Oh, sure. Make a claim like this a week after I packed away my AVENGERS reference volumes.

But I think the first time two minority characters were active on the Avengers roster was in the 1970s, when the Black Panther and Mantis were both on the team, though Mantis’s membership may not have been formalized until she left.

By my run, at least, there was a period that Triathlon, Photon, Silverclaw, Living Lightning and Firebird were all active at once.

Steve, you are definitely wrong about the minority thing. Ben Grimm (Jewish) and Luke Cage (black) were on the same Avengers team for years. And that’s just off the top of my head. You’re posting this stuff for the whole internets to see, why not do a bit of checking before making a false statement like that?

Also, Moon Knight (Jewish) and War Machine (Black) were on Brubaker/Ellis Secret Avengers at the same time.

if we’re counting Young Avengers:
Wiccan (Jewish and gay)
Patriot (Black)
Hulkling (gay)

Sorry guys, Jews see themselves as WHITE first, religion second…

Can we count Scarlet Witch as Roma?

As for this lineup … yawn. Same ol’ same ol’ at this point.

Whoa whoa, I said I thought it was the first time, not definitively that it was! And I meant to say minority males, not minority characters – sorry!

Snikt Snikt – really? Glad to know you have the ability to speak for all Jews. Super helpful skill to have.

When they mentioned several New Mutants would be headed to this book, I thought for sure that would include Cypher–his modern power set seems right up Hickman’s alley. (Of course, he could still pop up.)

I like Sam and Roberto, especially with a proper amount of bromance, but as New Mutants go, they’re not ones that will get me to pick up an Avengers book.

>> Sorry guys, Jews see themselves as WHITE first, religion second…>>

Aside from the fact that you’re mistaken on that score, the claim wasn’t “non-white,” but “minority.”

Where is the Vision? Get him in the game, Hickman!!

i know marvel doesn’t care much about my personal collecting proclivities, but i just want to buy sequentially numbered continuously published stapled floppy paper issues of Wolverine and Uncanny X-Men, and i wish they’d stop making that increasingly difficult to do.

the rest of their titles they can do whatever they want with, enumeratively and regards to publishing schedules. i’ll buy them in collected trades depending based on quality and whim. also, speaking for from an objective aesthetic/OCD point of view, it’d be nice if they just left Fantastic Four alone. as the start of the “Marvel Era” it makes for a nice benchmarker. but i guess that was also scraped a while ago during Heroes Reborn so whatever.

It blows my mind that any of this would blow anyone’s mind.

I’m surprised that so many people are posting about being surprised that someone is surprised by this.

It’s new! Buy it! Buy it! Buy it! Please?

If JiM survives Gillen’s departure by more than a month or two, I’ll be surprised.

It’s strange, if not surprising, that Marvel is, essentially, trying to push subscriptions, but never uses the marketing techniques that regular magazine publishers do for selling subscriptions. The company is just too dependent on sales of single copies through stores.

SRS

As song lyrics go, it’s more a case of “You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave.”

And this is why I lost interested in a lot of Marvel and DC books. I use to read Fantastic Four pretty much fucked that up many of times with ending the series then starting it over again.

Piss on Marvel and DC for the lack of ideas and for having a bunch on cunts running the companies.

Creator-own comics books have been a life savers.

This is a good time to start reading some creator-owned books.

If the indies were smart they would start new arcs at the same time the big two decide to pull a reboot. Maybe even publish some point one issues.

I am so sick and tired of Marvel restarting their titles. They just started many of these a little over a year ago and already they’re going back to #1’s. $#@!

This post was intentionally and ironically incredulous, right? Please?

No one believes these books are being purged. None of this is surprising. It’s a creative reshuffle/renumbering of their main titles. Nothing is being “purged”. No one “escaped destruction”. It is not a surprise that top titles are affected. No one was predicting nor did they expect that ancillary titles would be affected. The books that will “replace this backbone” are exactly the same books with different creators.

This article was shockingly bad.

Sometimes you want to go….. Where everybody knows your name….

Granted the number on a comic never held much weight for me but I understand long time readers being a bit erked by the frequent relaunches/ reboots.

Since I’ve been a weekly/ monthly reader ( only a couple of years) I tend to pick out books based on premise and creative teams.

I understand Marvel simply playing creative musical chairs with their reboot as a opposed to DC, who made a bit of a misstep with their relaunch by not getting new talent on their books.

Fear not true believer, Cap, Stark, Thor, Hulk, the Fantastic Four, and the various mutants will be front and center in a new book by next March.

This info now confirms what more than half of the Marvel Now books will be.

Make of that what you will.

Buy what titles you like, regardless of the number on the cover.

Marvel should’ve done what DC has and started their universe from scratch again. Give people a new/fresh jumping on point, w/new creative teams. Just renumbering the same old garbage only works so long these days…

Cancel the Ultimate line, its time has long since passed. This goes for Bendis too!

I’ve got a great idea. All issues of all comics should be #1’s, just with a new volume number!

So Fantastic Four, for example, could start with Volume #612, Issue #1, then go to Volume #613, issue #1, etc!