8 Essential Steps Before Submitting Your Manuscript
- Rewrite, rewrite, rewrite. Then self-edit your story until it’s the best you can do.
- Make sure you belong to a critique group in your genre. Submit your ms for critique.
- Revise your story again taking into account the critiques you received. Here you want to use common sense in regard to which critiques you listen to. If all your critique group members tell you a particular section of your children’s story is age inappropriate, listen. If one member tells you he/she doesn’t like the protagonist’s name, use your own discretion.
- Resubmit the manuscript to the critique group again. See if you’ve revised or removed all the problem areas.
- Proofread and self-edit the manuscript until you think it’s perfect.
- Print the manuscript and check it again. You’ll be surprised at the different types of errors that will be found in this format. You should use a colored pen or pencil for these corrections so they’ll be easy to spot later on.
- Now, it’s time for the final corrections. Give it another go over.
- Have your manuscript professionally edited.
Yes, You Need an Editor.
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Check this out: Pumpkins modeled after kids' books.
And -- bonus -- one of the books is the brilliant and wonderful Debbie Diesen's fun rhyming read-aloud book, The Pout-Pout Fish!'Tis the season to carve a pumpkin; why not get your inspiration from a kids' book like the kids at that cool school did?

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Saturday, I met with one of the three critique groups I’m in. I can see real improvement in others’ work. This group is mostly unpublished children’s writers, and I’m encouraging them to seek agents once they’ve written and polished their novels. The market has closed up a lot since I started writing thirteen years ago. Few large publishing houses will even look at unsolicited submissions. With the recession and staff layoffs, some editors who have been let go are trying to establish themselves as agents. This may be an opportune time to find an agent. I would probably look myself, but I’m tied up with promotions on my two young adult novels.
And I was fortunate enough to secure a critique of the first three chapters of my inspirational romance from an award-winning author of thirty-plus romances. This was the first time I actually had a published author agree to look at my work. Usually, published authors are too busy working on their own manuscripts to take the time to look at the writing of someone else not as far along. I understand that. I get requests all the time that I have to turn down. So, I was thrilled for the opportunity. And I learned a lot. Now I need to rework those first three chapters before I submit them to the editor who requested them at conference. I’m hoping to get to that this week.
I am teachable and I do persevere. I think those are the two qualities needed most by anyone who wants to make a living writing.


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I’m just back from a Novel Revision Retreat in San Rafael, CA. What a great time. I always learn so much from other writers.
- My suite-mate wasn’t taking my class, but I watched her hunker down for a weekend of writing and learned that sometimes solitude is just as helpful as working in a group.
- I learned all over again, that critique groups can be more honest and more helpful than anyone expects.
- I learned that continuing a group after a retreat like this means commitment to common goals. We talked about how to extend those goals by creating rituals (For example, a Friday check-in to see how you did that week, as the Summer Revision Smackdown has done.)
- I learned that it is San Ra-FELL, not San RA-fey-ELL. And that is in ma-WREN County, not MARE-in County.
- I learned that young men liked to read Tom Sawyer because they fell in love with Becky Thatcher. (Thanks, Howie, for a great laugh!)
- I learned that we all need to do a better job of sharing information about advances. If you’ve sold a picture book in the last five years, I urge you to fill out Barbara’s Kanninen’s survey. If you do, she will send you a copy of the most recent results of that survey.
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How Many Times Do you Revise?
When do novel or picture book revisions ever end? I’m always a new person, with a bit more knowledge and a bit more life under my belt. I could always make changes to the story. When do you know it’s time to submit your baby?
- My Best. When I’ve done everything I can right now. I try to revise as many times as necessary to get it right. If I’m happy with the story as it is, and I can’t think of anything else to try. And when I do try, it seems to mess it up, then I quit. For me, there’s also an emphasis on RIGHT NOW. Ten years from now, I’d do the story different, but RIGHT NOW (which is the only time we really have), I’ve done my best.
- Cool off. When I’ve let it sit for a while and still can’t figure out anything to do. Now this? I’m not so good at letting it sit. I want it out and accepted and published! But rejections have forced me to get better about letting a mss cool off. Time sometimes shows you what you couldn’t see before and you’ll know exactly where to revise. It might even, if you’re lucky, give you the right approach to improve the mss.
- Critique Group. When my critique group agrees with me. Ha! That doesn’t happen often enough. Sometimes critique groups make me feel like I’m back in junior high gossiping. As my son says, I don’t like all the drama. BUT, for the sake of my mss, I not only put up with it, but I encourage it. I need it. After a gossip session, though, I go away and consider and process and then approach a revision my way. Sometimes, it incorporates ideas from others, but in a different way or with my own twist. If I’m wise, though, I wait until my critique group likes the novel or picture book mss and then I send it out.
- Never. Some old novels and picture book mss are still in my file drawer. They need massive rewrites, I know. But for various reasons, they’ll never get what they deserve: the impulse for the story is gone, the story isn’t marketable today, I’m bored with the characters/voice/setting/plot/whatever. OK, I’ll admit it. Some sit because some critiquer made a remark that stopped me cold. Some sit because I don’t believe myself capable of doing the story justice. Some sit because, well, just because. Not all stories are meant to be shared with the world.
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Submit, Then Revise
At our spring conference, Jen Rofe, literary agent at Andrea Brown Literary spoke about sending out manuscripts.
The one thing that surprised me was her attitude toward submission and revision. Rofe said she usually sends out a mss to about five editors. Then, depending on the feedback, she’ll often ask the writer to revise. She considers those “test submissions.”
Re-reading some of Writing the Breakout Novel Workbook by Donald Maass, I noticed the same thing. He said that Parnall Hall had to revise a mystery:
A test round of submissions suggested that the points of view in A Clue for the Puzzle Lady were improperly weighted. Hall revised, and the second round hit the jackpot. p. 47
Interesting. If literary agents regularly use this approach of test submissions then revision, it’s something to think about.
Next time you send out your children’s picture book manuscript or your novel manuscript, target five publishers. If you get feedback, especially if it’s consistent in what it says, then revise before you send to five other editors.
Individual Critiques v. Group Critique
What if you don’t get personal letters from editors? I recently sent a picture book manuscript to about five different people and, without consultation with each other, four of the five mentioned a few items that needed work. Now, personally, I loved the fifth person’s comments! If she was an acquiring editor and bought the mss as is, no problem. But she’s not.
So, I have an overwhelmingly consistent opinion that something needs work.
Usually, I send to a critique group and everyone there sees the mss and it’s a group discussion. That always feels like a single opinion to me; here, I sent it privately and it’s five opinions. If those five had been in a group, the discussion may have progressed the same, but I would not be as likely to pay attention.
Will I always ask for separate critiques now? No. The group discussions are valuable. But I’m definitely adding this variation to my arsenal of revision strategies.
And yes, I’m working on revising the picture book manuscript, trying to do at least some of what these individuals asked for, while secretly hoping to find an editor who agreed with the other person!
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Greetings from the SCBWI Writers of Lower Fairfield County’s Picture Book Critique Group!
For those who are new or lurking, we meet each first Monday of the month in Westport from 7pm to at least 9pm. At our last meeting on Monday May 4th, there were nine of us gathered around the table.
Our pre-critique discussion was as follows:
- We determined that critiques would happen in order of member arrival
- We discussed whether or not to continue “first Monday” scheduling (yes)
- We were updated on Patricia Hubbell’s poetry classes that are in the works. Susan Hood is coordinating this. Seven people have expressed interest. The classes will be held in Easton at a cost of $25 each per class. Ms. Hubbell isn’t sure what attendees will want to focus on just yet; please let Susan know if you would rather cover authorship of children’s poetry or authorship of one-poem picture books.
- We discussed difficulties of finding an agent.
- We shared news of encouraging notes from publishers; also Tassy Walden award results.
Seven people shared their manuscripts and received brilliant critiques! Two who did not bring manuscripts discussed their current submissions.
Other notes from meeting:
- The book, Query Letters That Rock was recommended.
- Children’s Book Insider newsletter was recommended (w/paid membership at http://cbiclubhouse.com/)
- Using a picture book “dummy” was recommended for help in visualizing text placement and pacing (email Karen Jordan for blank online Word template)
Our next meeting is Monday, June 1. Please join us if you can!
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Yep. That's right. My critique group buddies are not just hot, happenin' and cool. They aren't on fire. They R on Fi-Ahhhhhh! I'm so proud of them.
Take for instance Ian Sands. Yes. I'm mentioning Ian again. That's because is art is taking off faster than a like a gazelle at a cheetah convention. (Does that phrase make me sound southern?)
In addition to his exhibits, sales and contest wins, he has just released a book called Ligers, Tigons and Pizzlies that gives insight into the inspiration of his latest exhibit, The Newimal Collection, which is based on real life hybrid animals. Give your mouse a clickety-click right here to purchase a copy.
Next is another critique buddy, Kathleen Reilly. This gal knows her stuff. If I were ever stranded out in the wilderness I would want to be stuck with her. Last year Kate launched her book Planet Earth. In honor of Earth Day this month, she is giving away a free copy of this awesome environment-friendly project book. Go on over to her blog and leave a comment for a chance to win. Hurry! Why are you still here? Go on over! But be sure to come back. There's more.
Are you back? Good.
The last thing I need to mention is that my critique group is putting together a schmooze coming up in May at Quail Ridge books in Raleigh, NC. Our guest speaker will be author, Kelly Starling-Lyons. It's gonna be great. More details to come!
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Okay, well if you like my new blog name (hello? anyone out there?) I can't take credit for it. I have to thank my remarkably diverse-thinking critique group. We were all brainstorming titles for my current middle-grade novel, when one of them fired off an entire list. I mean, a LIST!
Next thing you know, I have a new title for my MG novel...CROSSING CHALK.
And I liked it so much that I renamed my blog after it.
This is just one of many reasons to find a critique group and stay dedicated to it. For me, it's like having three editors I trust pick my novel apart once a month. As a writer, can you ask for anything more?
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With Thanksgiving approaching, I’m going to jump into the cliché. I’m grateful for so many things in my life right now—a lovely family, healthy children and loving husband, my beautiful home, warm clothes and food to eat. I’m going to focus this blog on giving thanks for things related to my writing.
1. Thanks for a mind overflowing with ideas, some of which end up on the page.
2. Thanks for my brilliant and extraordinarily patient critique group who has helped me immensely, plodding through my WIP (which I’m about to revise so drastically, they’ll probably have to start from the beginning again (sorry gals!))!
3. Thanks for my conference buddy, Kelly, who gives me the courage to overcome my schoolgirl shyness to talk to the editors and agents.
4. Thanks for the speakers at the SCBWI Prairie Writer’s Conference for giving me valuable insight into my own WIP, helping me to understand the elusive Voice, and breaking my block.
5. Thanks for the rejections coming back from agents who truly encourage and give me advice about how to improve my piece.
6. Thanks for my former students who encouraged me and taught me about young adults and about YA literature.
7. Thanks for my children who are patient and loving and so good at sharing the computer with me.
8. Most of all, thanks for my amazing, hard working, beautiful husband who gives me the freedom to write everyday if I choose to do so.

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Sunday I attended NJ SCBWI's First Annual Illustrator's Day.
This is the final art for the assignment we were given. (My first sketch and feedback are posted below.) I received feedback from AD Laurent Linn. He was kind and supportive of all the artists in our group. I later had a portfolio review with Patrick Collins. Look for coming posts about "eyes". I seem to have two extremes too big "shocking", and the dreaded "dot" eye. He recommended I play a bit with the eye to find a compromise. He also recommended dividing my portfolio, trade in one area and educational/mass market in another area. I also have to beef up my narrative. I have a bunch of what amounts to spot illustrations. I look forward to taking the information I received and using it to build a stronger portfolio.
I want to thank the NJ SCBWI for hosting this wonderful event. A special thanks to Leeza Hernandez for doing an amazing job coordinating the event. She also headed up a session that did a pretty kickin 10min. exercise that really got you to speed through thumbnails and see your story quickly. Leeza, you rock!
Karen and Lori were my travel buddies this trip. We had a good time...even if my driving made Karen a bit ill.
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Last night I met with my potential critique group. I say potential because I haven't been officially accepted as part of the group yet. It was my first time meeting two of the ladies and the other one I already knew. We met at a restaurant close to the Hyatt in LA, the site of the Annual SCBWI Summer Conference. Overall, it was a nice evening of conversation about anything from the current state of education to writing for children.
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Being a member of a good critique group is like gold for up and coming writers. I am blessed with a great group of talented and insightful people who help me see problems or even places in my story or writing that I can do better. They push me to be the best I can be.
Critique groups can be in-person or online. Both can work, but what makes the group good is the members.
Choosing a critique group is like choosing a tennis partner: You want to be within your peers or those more experienced than you as much as possible. You want to be able to learn from your group, so you don’t want a group that is less experienced than you. Now, some members in your group might be less experienced, and that’s fine. I’m not saying they can’t provide good feedback; they are readers, afterall. However, if all the members of the group are beginners and you’ve got some experience, you might be better served finding a group with members who you can learn more from.
Good critiquing is kind of an art in itself. You want to be encouraging, truthful, not negative – definitely not mean — but most of all, useful. I’ve had my share of critiques that aren’t useful. In one online critique group I used to be a member of, one critiquer said she didn’t like my story because she was a grandmother and she couldn’t bare the idea that her grandson wouldn’t want to visit her (as in my story). It was truthful, not negative and not mean, but it wasn’t very useful. As much as grandmother’s might not like it, kids don’t always want to visit their grandparents. And what I was looking for was critiques on the writing, how well the story flows, is it interesting, are the characters believable.
I have found that in the group I’m attending now, and, like playing tennis with someone better than you, it is helping to grow my writing faster than if I didn’t have the group. We’re so close to our work that we will often miss things, problems as well as opportunities. A good critique group helps you see these. Sure, you might find them on your own, but that could be in draft four or five. The group can save you time.
But what if you’re just a brilliant writer and everyone who has ever read your work thinks it’s great? (That’s all of us, right?) I’m sure there are authors who have been published without ever joining a critique group — never say never — but I’d say they’re few and far between. Maybe you’ll be one of them, but why take the chance? When you send out a manuscript to an agent or editor, you want it to be the best it can be. If you’ve done your research, found the perfect agent, seen him/her speak at some conferences and you know he/she is the agent for you, you want to show off your absolute best work because he/she might not be interested in seeing another submission.
That’s why tonight, I’m going to my critique group.
What’s your best critique group advice?
Write On!

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Does life ever slow down? And would I want it to? No, and no, I guess.
(from an Attwood Elementary School Field Day 2008 sign; this year's theme was Ellie McDoodle! Last year's was Dr. Suess)
Ellie 2 is out! Ellie McDoodle: New Kid in School is on bookstore and library shelves right NOW. Buy it! Borrow it! Read it!


I'm working on a few other book projects right now. When my wonderful-beautiful-brilliant (honestly, she is all that) editor says those magic words, "What do you have for the next Ellie book?" I'll be ready. In the meantime, I'm working on a book for older kids and a book for younger kids.
I've done a zillion sketches this summer, but haven't scanned many in because I've been too busy with other obligations.
Here are two sketches from my cousin's Ordination as a Priest, in May.

It was a fascinating ceremony, held in downtown Detroit at a lovely cathedral. Here's Father Charles, no longer Chuck:


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My Far Flung Writers novel group is looking for two new members. This is a fantastic group. (If you don't believe me, you can ask P.J., or HipWriterMama, or Chris, or Kim, or Patty.)
What we write:
- Middle Grade and YA novels
- approximately 5,000 words every four weeks
- In 3 of 4 weeks, we read and critique two 5,000 word subs. (In week 4--the week you submit--you only critique one.) This is a major time commitment, I won't lie. Two hours a week or more, depending on your speed.

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Dear Ms. Snark,
Let's say you're writing a novel (literary suspense) about, oh, let's say a professor of English who discovers a lost novel by Jane Austen. After writing about half of your first draft, you see an ad for a forthcoming literary suspense novel about...a professor of English who discovers a lost novel by Jane Austen. Your first instinct, of course, is to jump in front of a truck. After you settle down, though, you realize (please choose one):
a. It's not the end of the world--you scrap the thing and start a different novel the next day.
b. Plow ahead with your novel--chances are the guy who got there first won't have written a bestseller, and a year from now, when you're querying, most agents won't have heard of the thing. Besides, if one sold, another can sell!
c. Keep writing your novel, but make damn sure you can talk intelligently when you query about why it's different from that piece of Austen crap that came out last year.
d. Go ahead with that truck idea.
Thank you!
Well, as enchanting as the idea of watching you pancake yourself is, here are the options in order-first choice to last- c, b, a, d.
You have quite the talented critique group! Fun happenings!
Yes, they are very talented bunch. I'm hoping some of it rubs off on me. :0)
Christy - I nominated you for an award on my blog!
Thanks so much, Christy! And hey, I'd be stuck in the wilderness with you any day -- you could tell me cool stories while I made a compass out of dental floss.
Wow ... what a fabulously talented critique group you have!!! Very cool!
Sounds like you have a fantastic group which is totally priceless!!!!!
You obviously mix with the talented people. Or is it that people with talent mix with you? ;)
What a talented Critique group you are in...and what wonderful books they have...hugs...
Wow! You're obviously in good company.
And by the way, I've nominated you for The Lemonade Stand Award. Cheers!
dont you love it when people from your group take off! so exciting to watch!
Great work, Ian and Kate! We're so proud of you! Thanks for noting these, Christy. I just want to know, what's a pizzlie?
Wow that is very cool! Although I sat there scratching my head for a long while wondering what fiah was. he he! slow today.