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There is a small, snivelling and flinching part of me that would rather not have his name inextricably linked with The Last Comic Book Movie Flop Of 2010. But, you know, I am today pretty much at peace with the whole thing. I’ve met fine people and I’ve learned many useful things, and that is the most you can ask of any walk.
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Warren Ellis, explaining why buying his daughter a pony was the most important effect of RED becoming a movie.
BTW, we’ve heard many reports of RED tracking well, and despite the minuscule turnout at the NYCC WildStorm/RED panel — 22 people — it could turn out to be the kind of movie that doesn’t do well at Comic Con but does well in theaters. Or, it could be The Last Comic Book Movie Flop Of 2010.
Is anyone in the peanut gallery looking forward to RED?
A new clip from RED, the Bruce Willis-starring movie loosely based on RED by Warren Ellis and Cully Hamner, has been released, and to the surprise of no one, it features what is the most eagerly anticipated aspect of the film: Dame Helen Mirren blowing shit up.
We’re told RED has been tracking very well and may even be the graphic novel base hit that perks up an otherwise painful year.
I was at Comic-Con all weekend and I had no idea there was a RED panel.
The NYCC website for panels was very lame and confusing, as the site could only display 10 panels at a time, so creating a plan for the con was really damn time consuming.
If Scott Pilgrim taught us anything it might be that doing well at Comic Con means you fail at the box office.
And NYC might be a very different beast from San Diego.
My gut, and the tracking data, tells me that the awesome cast and great commercials will make RED a success. Techland is full of the crazy.
It looks like a fun flick, though I’m having trouble rousing anyone to go watch it with me.
1) Most people do not know this is a movie based on a comic book. So there might not be that prejudice when people decide to go see it.
2) It doesn’t matter, the book will still sell.
3) 86% on Rotten Tomatoes, with four top critics all liking it so far. The Village Voice does compare it to the GN, and likes the movie more.
Is this really the last GN movie of the year? Nothing opening for the holidays?
Thing is, viewers not knowing that it’s based on a comic book is much less important than producers knowing that it is. This is not to excuse the groupthink and focus-group mentality of production and marketing, mind you.
If this cast was performing Greater Tuna, I’d pay to see it.
a hokey comic book turned into aname dropping hokey film…pass, i’m looking forward to the royal mess that The Thing prequel will be.
To second another poster, “Kick Ass” and “Scott Pilgrim” were both touted as the Second Coming at Comic Con, and both of them bombed hard, so if “Red” barely gets any notice at Comic Con but scores relatively well in theaters, I think this will force movie studios to reevaluate how much they actually WANT to appeal to the fans.
And given the fact that “Red” appears to have improved its source material significantly, I wonder if what Ellis is worried about is not that the film will fail, but rather, that a bunch of people might decide that they prefer it to the comic book.
I liked the book and even the prequels. My wife, who wouldn’t see a comic book movie to save her life, even wants to see it.
I was at comic con all weekend, I read a number of comic blogs, I know ellis’s work in general, and I’ve never heard of this. If it got half as much advertizing as “frankenstein girl vs vampire girl” then I absolutely would have gone to see it.
Really looking forward to the movie- but didn’t want to burn thru valuable NYCC time for the movie then.
Oddly this is a film the whole family is looking forward to including my dad (a Bruce Willis fan though he had probs with Cop Out), my mum (who likes the look of Helen Mirren with a SMG), and my brothers who are just average comic-book geeks. We will definitely be seeing it during the first week.
It looks like a fun flick to me! the original comic did not hit my radar, but I’m keen to check it out now.
Van – I have plans on seeing it this weekend if you’d like to tag along.
My non-comics reading wife really wants to see it. She had no idea it was based on a comic until I mentioned it. In fact, I probably wouldn’t have connected it to the Ellis comic without seeing it mentioned on comics news blogs. She just thinks it looks cool and funny.
No disrespect to Cully Hamner, co-creator and artist on the original “Red” comic (and a nice guy who I enjoyed talking with in San Diego), but maybe the “Red” panel at NYCC might have had a few more people if it had one of the actors from the movie. Just became they didn’t have a huge turnout for the panel doesn’t mean there’s not interest in the film…
Some of the more successful comic book movies have been ones that I’d guess that the audience didn’t know were based on comics, such as Men In Black and 300. The general audience not making that connection here may not translate to poor results.