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Thanks for this informative vlog! I have a question though. Some agents or editors ask for a 1-2 page synopsis, not the up to 10 pages you mention here. How do I decide what to include?

Thanks, Kristin, and have an enjoyable and productive trip to Italy.

Andrea - what I've seen is they usually tell you what they want on their submission guidelines, whether it's a long synopsis or a short one.

I've spent days researching this and you summed it up in 4 minutes and 26 seconds. Your vlogs are a great resource!

Andrea, from what I understand, the 1-2 page synopsis is a play-by-play that focuses on the major points of the novel. You want the story arc to be clear, from beginning to end. And if you can let your voice shine through, you have a winner.

Thanks, Kristin, as always your blog/vlog was informative, clear, and concise.

What a wonderful resource.

Have a great time in Italy!

I was with Andrea up there - 10 pages sure sounds reasonable to me, especially when your actual book is 300+, but (aside from querying on pink perfumed stationery), NOTHING seems surer to get you tossed into the trash these days than over-length on any front - query too long, word count too high, synopsis too detailed. Like Jeff says, though, you can't ever go wrong with following the directions - the hardest part is knowing what to do when explicit directions aren't listed.

But to the subject: great post, needless to say, very friendly and informative. I wonder if the pitch changes at all if you're giving it in person - I've got one of those scheduled in May, and I'm quaking in my boots at the very idea...!

I've always been told the max a synopsis should be is 5 pages... I would LOVE to do one in ten, ha! I take it it's 10-12, double-spaced?

Tex,

It’s been a while, but I’ve done a few conference pitch sessions – it’s actually how I landed Kristin as my agent. I found it best to keep the pitch as short as the one or two lines Kristin describes in her vlog. Start by introducing yourself; briefly include your writing history if you think it works in your favor. If you're a fan of one of the agent's clients or her blog, let her know. The intro relaxes you and gives the agent a second to transition from her last pitch to you. Then give your 1-2 line pitch. If you’ve been making the most of the conference and meeting people, you’ve probably said your pitch 20 times before meeting the agent, so it should come more easily. Then leave the last half of your pitch session (they typically last 8-10 minutes) for questions you or the agent may have. The agent will usually ask a few about your pitch. These minutes go by quickly, so don’t worry that you’ll have to fill the time. If you do have time left, either ask substantive questions you’ve always wanted to ask an agent, or go ahead and wrap up. The agent will probably appreciate a spare minute or two since they do many pitches, all day long. Good luck!

Kimberly:

Let me go a step past the usual and say that that is without a doubt the most helpful thing I ever WILL read. Thank you so much for taking the time to spell it out for me! I will start hammering those lines out right now, so that by the time I actually get up to the agent, I can focus on the friendlier, impromptu side of things, and just whip this out of my pocket worry-free. Much obliged, ma'am!

I love this series, Agent Kirsten! You always seem professional and likable in your posts, and it's lovely to see it confirmed in your videos.

Thanks for being so invested in writers. We really appreciate the help!

Typo. Argh. The worst kind of typo, even! Plus, I can't fix it. Don't hate me. I promise I know your name.

I don't know how my query writing skills are yet (nasty case of can't finish writing novel-itis) but I love writing summaries. Does this make me strange? I run around on wikipedia trimming up freakishly long plot summaries for films and stuff for fun; it's great writing practice.

After my first experience with judging in a writing contest, my attitude on the dreaded synopsis has done an about-face.

It occurred to me that while reading the entries, I constantly referred back to the synopsis to see if the scenes made sense, were needed, and were working toward the plot arc.

It helps that I'm a plotter, but now I'm learning to use my synopsis in the same way - to keep me on track, to force me to evaluate dead-end scenes, and to above all ask the question "is this story entertaining"

Writing a query and a synopsis helped me see that there WAS a lack in my story, and I've spent the last three months trying to fix the gap. So I agree with what you're saying...but it's a hard thing to go back and re-work a novel (or in my case add two new major pieces) too. Still, entirely worthwhile, assuming the book works out in the end.

I totally agree. It's far easier to blame (and try to fix) the 250 word query letter than to admit there's a problem with the novel you spent months laboring over. When you've sent queries and sample pages but agents aren't biting, it's hard to know which one is flawed. Probably the novel, I'm guessing.

This makes so much sense. I despise writing queries. However, I can't tell you the number of times I've gone back to revise a novel, sometimes changing major plotlines, because I just can't make the query work. It is an incredibly helpful tool.

Writing that query letter and synopsis lent me some focus for the book. (There are times your characters/plot can take several different directions. But you're not quite sure what's the best choice. So writing that synopsis and what I wanted emerging themes to be, proved a helpful exercise.

Good advice. As I write more, I'm finding that being able to summarize the book query-letter style before I start helps me plan and focus the story.

Doing it again during revisions helps me identify weak spots. If I'm reaching for conflicts in the query, I have to punch them up in the manuscript.

This makes a lot of sense and helps me to look at my book different. I know the strong points you mentioned are there, and now I just have to make them work for my hook. That's the part I'm struggling with.

The same holds true for a book proposal (for non fiction). It's a pain to write (especially the marketing plan) but it's so very helpful especially when a publisher gives you the go-ahead. Now you have a polished plan, an A to Z road map. It actually makes the writing process so much simplier.

This is right on. After too many rejections telling me "writing is fine but I don't love your story enough...", I realized that I had to tweak the story, not the query. As much as I think some elements are important, it doesn't matter if no one is going to read it. So I'm refocusing the story, which should make it tighter and (ahem) less about me. By the way, this became crystal clear to me after I participated in a "pitch the publisher" event. All writing sounds so different when it is read out loud in front of strangers and I knew instantly how to fix my query problem.

It's so true. There have been some times when I was working to write a synopsis and I'm like, "Hey, this story is so not working." It really does help. They can be frustrating, yes, but also very helpful.

But, what if you are just confused? You think you have a good query. You think you have a good synopsis. You think you have a good story. You go to writer's groups, conventions and even have your work read by children who have no connection with you and get positive feedback all around...but you can't seem to find an agent. Do you scrap the book? We're not blaming the query process, which is absolutely necessary, just generally confused on what we are doing "wrong"...
PLJ

I think the query & synopsis are essential to the writing process. After reading through the "Query Shark" archives, I realized I needed to tighten my writing. After trying to write a query, I realized I needed to scrap my project. Now, I start with the query and the synopsis and let that be my outline for writing. They can shift during the process, but I feel much more focused on conflict and unique story-telling. Great advice!

This may seem strange but I actually wrote the query before I wrote the manuscript. Maybe it's my legal writing background but it's so helpful to me to start with a general statement then fill in the details.

I almost always write the query before I start writing now. I don't outline or plot before I start, so having those 2 or 3 paragraphs reminding me what the book is about, helps.

@Anonymous 11:41

Get your Query critiqued. The message board Absolute Write has a section for this very task. It's harsh, and you will leave weeping quietly over your mutilated ego, but they generally know what they are talking about.

Otherwise, this may just not be a book which will be picked up. There are plenty books which aren't. There's nothing particularly wrong with them, they just don't do quite enough to make somebody want to buy them. The bottom line is always the money.

Write your next book. Move ever forwards.

Thanks for that, Jessica. Straight up, as usual!
Had to put together my first synopsis two weeks ago for a competition. I'm on Chapter four or five of my first novel and it definitely made me see where the holes were in my plot and my character arcs. It will make it a much better story!
Thanks,
Lizzi Tremayne

PS, next MS will begin with the synopsis and query (better write a query letter for this today... then on to finish the MS!)
Thanks for your great posts.
Lizzi

Writing practice queries has really helped me figure out when a story has a cohesive plot. If I can't sum it up in a reasonable amount of words, I have to assume nothing's really happening. Even if I write a query that's too long, as long as there are points of conflict and the like to highlight, I know I have a story structure there, not a meaningless collection of scenes.

Now I just have to write a really gripping query, not one that's just for practice!

And I'm like TheLabRat in that I like writing summaries and am looking forward to writing synopses for my novels. I can be pretty wordy, but trimming up things others have written has been great practice at cutting my own stuff, too.

It's a hard thing to face, but writers have to accept that sometimes a novel just doesn't sell. You find an agent, but she can't find an editor. The agent finds an editor who's in love with the book, but the publisher won't pick up the project. The publisher buys the book, but doesn't have any faith in it and it languishes. The publisher gets behind the novel and promotes it in every way possible, but readers just don't buy it.

This is a little off topic, but my point is that aspiring authors have to not only be willing to change the novel when necessary, they have to move on to other projects if the current WIP isn't going anywhere. Putting a novel aside isn't necessarily giving up on it, nor does it mean giving up writing altogether.

It's all about eggs, baskets, omelets, and priorities. Success is earned, never given.

I think I still have two novels, in hard copy, buried somewhere that I abandoned after I didn't get any positive responses. And I'm not shy about aggressively hawking for responses either. But sometimes we have to rethink things and change course.

Do you know how many books there are in the world? I bet I have 2 or 3 hundred just under my own roof. Perspective. A good thing.

Heard someone talking the other day about this wonderful writing that had poetry in the spaces between the words. I'm just here for the story, guys.

I have to say that I used to think the synopsis and query were the most painful part! But now they seem simple. Granted, I'm not a published writer, so grain of salt here- but this is what worked for me. I wrote 3 novels, completing them, then struggling to write the synopisis and query afterward. It was horrific. For the next novel I wrote, I used a far more systematic way of planning and plotting (still learning here, you see). Part of that process invlolved writing your synopsis as one of the very first things you do. It was a breeze. Now I can look back over my synopsis and remind myself how I envisioned the flow of the novel from the very beginning. Added bonus being that I can go back now and then and tweak the synopsis as the writing process progresses and -Voila!-when the book is done I already have a nice tight, orderly synopsis waiting for me :) How much more successful this will be, I have no idea, but so far things are going much more smoothly this time around.

The Retreat gave us inspiration as well as concrete information about our writing. Thank you, Kathy, and Laurie for your devoted hard work.