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As I suggested in my early con impressions, WonderCon had a reasonable amount of space and handled the numbers of attendees pretty well. It was no surprise that Saturday brought bigger numbers than Friday, and the crowding was more obvious, but still never reached that feeling of pushing and shoving that can easily erupt at crowded cons. The floor occasionally got backed up, particularly around the constantly slammed DC Comics booth, where big names like Scott Snyder appeared frequently for signings and the DC booth’s location, at the very front of the con entrance, contributed to some difficulty getting onto the floor. I noticed that the retail side of things was fairly busy, too, with some crowding and difficulty navigating, suggesting that plenty of fans were there to buy back issues and memorabilia, as well. The artists alley at WonderCon was a little on the scanty side in terms of size and numbers of tables, but those artists who were present were very engaging and passionate about their work. They seemed to have regular followers who were coming in to buy their artwork and there was a strong representation of the fine art side of fantasy prints and original work, as well as handmade arts and crafts.
Open areas like the food court and outside atrium were a welcome oasis, but it also continued to be easy to exit the con into the outdoor plaza areas for a rest and there was no difficulty with re-entry. Though the floor only allowed a couple of doors for access, the many exterior doors were open for comings and goings, with several food trucks outside, far enough from the entrance not to cause back ups. One other surprise was that Sunday seemed just as busy as Saturday, as I heard retailers commenting. They were turning over sales at just as high a rate that day. This feeling may be due to the fact that there were slightly fewer panels on Sunday, making the floor more of a feature, or simply that people waited to do their shopping on the floor on Sunday. When I stumbled into the Arena, a venue I hadn’t seen before, I was impressed with the numbers it could hold, and also that it was completely full for a Joss Whedon Shakespeare film adaptation event. This suggested to me that the con was handling numbers well, since I generally had no idea that so many people were even at the con on top of the numbers moving in the open spaces of the con. It was Easter Sunday the last day of the con, and it closed a little early, at 5PM, perhaps for this reason, but fans still had a sense that they would have been happy for the con to go on a little longer, a good sign regarding WonderCon’s appeal.
One final follow up: I suggested initially in my coverage that people might find WonderCon in Anaheim appealing due to Disneyland access, and that this would appeal to people will kids particularly. Though this turned out to be true, I also underestimated the appeal of Disneyland to singles and younger congoers. I went to Disneyland the following Monday and found that quite a number of WonderCon attendees were there too, from a younger demographic than I expected. You could tell from their conversations and generally less pastel clothing what guests were in town for the con, and I’d say about 1 in 10 were from the con in the massive crowds Disney drew on that post-Easter day.
Final thoughts: it was a well run and appealing con, offering plenty of choice in terms of panels, keeping up with what’s going on in comics and pop culture right now. Marvel were a little under represented, though Dan Slott was participating in panels, and several pros who were there for DC panels were formal Marvel people. Marvel didn’t have a booth on the floor, driving up the demand for DC variants and signings, which they happily accommodated. I was also impressed by the energetic presence of the mid-sized presses like Dark Horse, Archaia, Image, IDW, and ComiXology, for taking the opportunity to flourish and interact with fans when given a little more space to do so. The mid-sized presses really shone in their engagement with fans on the floor, their foresight in bringing new and upcoming books to purchase and get a sneak-peak at, and also through their involvement on panels. This gave the general impression that mid-sized presses are on the rise and taking on the role, collectively, as contenders for the Big Two. Good for them!
Whether WonderCon is in Anaheim again or back in San Francisco in the future, the planning and structure of the con should continue to hold up to make it a comfortable as well as enjoyable, exciting event for fans. This won’t be one of the cons where you have to sacrifice personal amenities just to see your favorite artists speak or get the variant your collection is calling for. They have a sense of putting the customer first at WonderCon and let’s hope that continues; it sets a good model for the growing con industry, and there are some bigger cons who could learn a thing or two from this.
Without further ado, some highlights of the con in photos from my trusty partner in crime Michele Brittany who proved her moxie as a pop culture photographer at WonderCon 2013 in spades. Thanks Michele!
Photo Credits: All photos in this article were taken by semi-professional photographer and pop culture scholar Michele Brittany. She’s an avid photographer of pop culture events. You can learn more about her photography and pop culture scholarship here.
Hannah Means-Shannon writes and blogs about comics for TRIP CITY and Sequart.org and is currently working on books about Neil Gaiman and Alan Moore for Sequart. She is @hannahmenzies on Twitter and hannahmenziesblog on WordPress.
5 Comments on On the Scene: WonderCon 2013 Recap and Photo Gallery, last added: 4/28/2013
That outdoor plaza was a great addition (up until sometime last year it was a street separating the the two nearby hotels) for this sort of con, not just adding room for food trucks, but as a place for people to hang out and rest, socialize, hold photoshoots, etc.
While I’d still like to see WonderCon move back to San Francisco, they’ve shown that they can put on a good mid-sized con here in Anaheim, and if they do move back, I like the idea of adding another convention to the circuit the way they were talking about doing this year if they were able to get fall dates in San Francisco.
That said, it also showed that Anaheim, at least right now, can’t handle the parking needed for both Disneyland and a Comic-Con sized event. Wondercon is, what, a third the size of SDCC these days, and it was still problematic at best.
My own recap is still in progress, but if anyone’s interested, here’s my WonderCon photo gallery on Flickr.
Hannah Means-Shannon said, on 4/3/2013 4:40:00 PM
Thanks Kelson! I should’ve commented on the parking- you’re right. I was lucky enough not to have to drive, but my friends did have some issues. On the first day they turned up way early and were fine but on the second day they were only a little early and had to park really far away and it made life difficult for them- it’s true.
Torsten Adair said, on 4/5/2013 11:14:00 AM
They expanded their square footage, moving from Hall D (221K) to Halls A+B (292K).
The interior courtyards are a nice amenity. While I expect they might be crowded during WC, during the library show, they were spacious and sunny, and a nice way to escape (temporarily) from the hustle and bustle. There were also some food vendors there.
Parking… Disney’s Toy Story lot is not that far away, directly east of the convention center. $15 for the day. Can the general public park there? Or is it only for theme park visitors?
Eddie Pittman said, on 4/5/2013 2:19:00 PM
Torsten, Disney does open the lot for convention overflow and I believe some of the others as well.
And I Survived…WonderCon 2013(with bells on) | @ said, on 4/27/2013 10:05:00 PM
[...] wrote a wrap-up of my impressions of the con, comparing it to my opening article, and included with it is Michele’s excellent photo [...]
A project by Michael Lee Lunsford – of Supernnormal Step webcomic fame – that sees some of our favourite women superheroes dressed in non-revealing costumes has been causing a splash on the internet today.
Point of this: An exercise in character design, attempting to clothe the heroines nearly all the way and not making them painted-on, while still keeping the look of their original costumes in some way. Hopefully keeping them looking as iconic as the originally were. Just showing what can be done with a costume breaking outside the barrier of the norm.
NOT the point of this: some moral code I’m trying to push on you.
Judging by the reaction on my own Twitter and Facebook, the overall response is incredibly positive and the negative responses somewhat revealing in themselves. There’s criticism that all the women are wearing trousers for example, or look frumpy, with fellow Beat writer Steve Morris noting that he was somewhat initially taken back by the fact that these women are drawn with realistic body shapes – not something superhero comic readers are perhaps used to.
Other negative comments followed the predictable paths of, “but superhero men are half naked too!”, “they look like men in drag!”, “prudes!”, and the ever popular, “TWILIGHT!!”. Criticising superhero outfits is, of course, a favourite past time of all superhero comics fans, but when it comes to the women characters such criticism can skate worryingly close to the sexist edge (if not outright flying right over it).
So it’s easy to see why Lunsford is keen to point out that he is not pushing a moral code here. Let’s remember too, that women who like these outfits are not out on a crusade to ban all bare legs and boobs from superhero comics (Vampirella’s famous costume for example was designed by the wonderful and feminist Trina Robbins). But it is nice to see that these characters remain as iconic and powerful without all having to bare skin. Just as all superhero men should not have to sport the Namor speedo look. (Although actually, another illustrator has done almost exactly that to further illustrate this very point!)
I really love these, and it’s heartening to see the positive reactions. In my own world, superheroes would have more than one outfit because while some days we all feel like sex kittens, other days we just want to wear our pyjamas and veg out while reluctantly saving the world. And who wants to wear the same thing every day? Stick to a colour scheme to be recognisable, but work that capsule wardrobe folk. Lunsford is now working on a series called Super-Casuals, starting with Spider-Man.
Some of these characters of course have had (or currently have) equally non-revealing outfits. I think what sets these illustrations apart though is that realism in body shapes that Stephen spotted, and the fact that these also look like everyday wear for everyday women. I would totally wear that Supergirl outfit (minus the cape!).
(And wouldn’t these be great for real all-ages comics that aren’t just for kids but are suitable for them too?!)
Nicely done. I think Power Girl and Black Canary are my favorites.
Joe said, on 4/2/2013 10:43:00 AM
Nothing wrong with these at all—except: it is the superhero world, after all, so I’d wish Supergirl’s and Wonder Woman’s trousers were tighter and sleeker looking. Somehow I don’t mind the real-cloth look on Power Girl. But for PG and Supergirl, why the mediaeval-looking tunic-look, ie, the fabric coming to mid-thigh? Again, it’s a period look and not one that says sleek, fast, superhero.
The Beat said, on 4/2/2013 10:55:00 AM
DublDownDrew said, on 4/2/2013 11:58:00 AM
I like all of these designs, but some of the coloring on the pants just strikes me as a bit “off” (Supergirl & Wonder Woman). If they were more in color uniformity with the costumes/uniforms I’m all in on all of them. Power Girl’s design is a VAST improvement over what she has typically been shown in.
VichusSmith said, on 4/2/2013 12:13:00 PM
Not all of these work for me (especially the Wonder Woman), but I wonder why more concepts like this aren’t drawn.
Chris Hero said, on 4/2/2013 12:18:00 PM
OMG!! Those are awesome!!!! I think I have a crush on that Zatanna. Just incredibly awesome!
Laurie S. Sutton said, on 4/2/2013 12:51:00 PM
I absolutely ADORE these designs. They would be superb in all-ages comics or kids’ books.
Gene Ha said, on 4/2/2013 1:46:00 PM
I love that he re-designed the looks. Great fun! Skirts over pants are making a comeback in the Spring Collections in Paris this year, so this is trendy even if I remember the 90s too well to get excited. Hurray for the return of Zatanna’s hat!
The figures have unfashionably short legs and long torsos, especially Zatanna. Shorter than average adult women, much less superheroes and fashion models. That may be causing some of the negative reactions. Zatanna’s limb vs torso proportions are literally the same as Peter Dinklage’s.
The short legs and long torsos are accentuated by the low belt placement. Especially the optical illusion belt formed by Zatanna’s untucked shirt.
Ben Grimm said, on 4/2/2013 1:49:00 PM
I like these outfits and wouldn’t mind seeing super-heroines dressing like this more often. I do agree with DublDownDrew about the coloring on the pants for Supergirl and Wonder Woman though.
Dr. Bloodmoney said, on 4/2/2013 1:57:00 PM
I like the idea of more sensibly-dressed superheroines in theory, but these redesigns aren’t doing it for me: not only the coloring choices but the designs themselves all feel very medieval/renaissance fair-esque to me, not at all appropriate for the sleek modernism inherent to superheroes.
Also, in my heart of hearts I do really think stuff like this is pretty puritanical and prudish. I’m all for more realistic portrayals of the female anatomy and a greater diversity of body types, but I don’t see the harm in sexy, exciting and iconic costumes at all. Y’all wouldn’t want your favorite female heroines fight crime in burqas, now would you?
Erik said, on 4/2/2013 2:26:00 PM
Love the idea, but some imprivements can be made. Wonder Woman looks like she’s wearing slacks under her armor. Why not just go with the full armor look?
Love Power Girl and Elektra!!
Laura Sneddon said, on 4/2/2013 3:21:00 PM
Ah no! Let’s not with the burqa argument D:
The idea isn’t that all women characters need to be covered up, just that the opposite isn’t true either. Costumes can be sexy without being revealing, women can be iconic without flashing their boobs. Characters who revel in cheesecake, like Vampirella and Catwoman, would be that much more iconic if their look wasn’t the norm after all.
Heidi – love that image! Someone on my facebook also pointed out that most martial arts practitioners favour more roomy clothing. In order to be more deadly :D
Zach said, on 4/2/2013 6:37:00 PM
I really like the designs but we’ll prolly never see them used in the DCnU. THANKS A LOT OBAMA.
george said, on 4/2/2013 9:10:00 PM
I remember when the Scarlet Witch’s bathing suit-and-cape garb was the ultimate in “revealing” costumes. Then along came Vampirella, and SW looked like a Victorian prude.
Alexandra said, on 4/2/2013 10:14:00 PM
“In my own world, superheroes would have more than one outfit because while some days we all feel like sex kittens, other days we just want to wear our pyjamas and veg out while reluctantly saving the world.”
Yeah! Superpowered man and child characters should get bigger wardrobes too! :D
…and some days it’s warm out, some days it’s cold out, some days you wear one outfit because another equally appropriate outfit of yours is in your dirty laundry bin…
While the Nerdist Industries’ arena event at WonderCon this year was ostensibly about the future of the Youtube based pop culture conglomerate, and, indeed, plenty was said about upcoming projects, the question and answer period really expanded into a call to arms for fans to help directly determine the future of pop culture.
Nerdist founder Chris Hardwick took the stage, joined by panellists Paul Provenza, Troy Conrad, and Matt Bennett, on March 31st, in the lead up to the season finale of The Walking Dead. Hardwick’s job as host of Talking Dead meant there was plenty of frisson in the audience about the upcoming show, and Hardwick teased, but didn’t deliver, spoilers on the show’s finale several times. In fact, he informed the audience that he was about to “get into a car to film Talking Dead” following his WonderCon appearance. Envy at his early viewing of the finale was palpable.
While Hardwick has a cult following as host of Talking Dead, and also from plenty of Nerdist projects, his presence live is even more dynamic, bringing with it plenty of his stand up comedy background. Since it was also Easter Sunday, Hardwick opened with a relevant quip: “That’s one person who came back from the dead and didn’t do it to rip someone’s heart out. Just put the love in it”. About a thousand attendees found this hilarious. Hardwick showed a promo video preview of upcoming Nerdist projects, often punctuated by applause and cheers from the audience when they recognized an anticipated segment or a celebrity guest coming up on a project, and followed by discussing several of the projects in a little more detail with his panellists.
Bennet’s new series, currently being filmed, entitled Nerdy Jobs, a play on Dirty Jobs, got particular attention. The series will involve him visiting nerdy “cool” companies like tech industries and comic book shops to give an insider’s view of working there. Hardwick pondered what Bennett would find to say if he visited NASA for the show: “Uh, sorry about your funding?”. Another big push for Nerdist is the launch of a comedy combination of stand up and improv based on the British series concept Setlist, a competition that will tour around the world. As a veteran of stand up, Hardwick was particularly enthused, commenting that forcing stand up comedians into an improv situation is like “looking for the God particle of comedy”. His request to the audience about the upcoming new shows: “Please don’t feel compelled to say horrible things IN ALL CAPS in comment threads”.
This led Harwick to speak for a moment about Youtube as a venue for hosting programming. Though delivered in a comically serious tone, the message had some bite: “No longer do companies tell us what to watch”. It was the first of several comments that indicated that Hardwick still has a lot to say about the role of open access and its giant-killing capabilities in relation to big media. Nerdist Industries, he said, is going to be expanding, but not along the lines of some of their peers on Youtube, who branch out into “piles of channels”; instead, they are aiming for a “hyper-curated partnership” with 6-8 channels and plenty of intensive “cross promotion”. They are also considering a move, based on fan request, to try out video podcasts, though Hardwick is a little skeptical of why people would want to watch them. Demand has been high enough that he’s prepared to yield to the experiment. Upcoming guests for the video podcast will include Seth Rogan, Steve Young, Scott Adsit and “surprises” too. Nerdist will also, finally, launch a major app to link to its content and, even more surprisingly, will be venturing into filmmaking following their purchase by Legendary Entertainment. They hope to work as producers on smaller budget films in this new role.
While Hardwick was delivering his energetic spiel, Provenza interjected, “Do you ever sleep?”. It was true, Hardwick looked a little peaked. “I have a robot heart”, he intoned, and continued on to the question and answer period. Questions began with a repeat offender from SDCC who Hardwick had once hugged in the past for his super fandom regarding Superman. “Comic Con is about getting super freaked out about stuff you love”, Hardwick reminded the audience (and he would deliver another hug later to a girl dressed as Wario in sympathy with his own Mario Brothers t-shirt). Harwick was then asked what he would do if his girlfriend was found to be “patient zero” in a potential zombie apocalypse. “Oh, I’d shoot her in the fucking head. That’s what you do for your loved ones”, he said without hesitation, to much hilarity, and added that he hoped she’d do the same for him.
He seemed pretty serious about that topic, but not as serious as he became immediately after the question on the subject of open access production. “There is literally no excuse for you not to pursue things that you love now. You are living half a life if you do not pursue the things that you love”, he said, referring to the tools now available for fans and pop culture creators alike. When a middle school teacher asked him for ideas to keep her students interested in pop culture in their newly formed lunch club, he gave a very invested answer, repeating that the most important thing the teacher could do for them would be to get them to “make things”, whether videos, or other media. “Teach them to be creators vs. consumers”, he pleaded, to much approbation from the crowd.
One of Hardwick’s winning qualities that keeps him from drifting too far from his fanbase due to his ever increasing media success is his earnestness, often placing himself in the role of the fan once more. He described himself as a “lamprey” feeding off the “giant sperm whale” of pop culture products and feeling grateful, trying not to “impose” when working with actors from major shows. The Nerdist panel emphasized again that Hardwick still sees himself as an outsider in the mainstream, and an insider to “nerd” culture, no matter how many celebrity friends he accrues. That lends credence to his requests and his advice that fans continue to interact directly with the things they love through becoming “creators” too.
Photo Credits: All photos in this article were taken by semi-professional photographer and pop culture scholar Michele Brittany. She’s an avid photographer of pop culture events. You can learn more about her photography and pop culture scholarship here.
Hannah Means-Shannon writes and blogs about comics for TRIP CITY and Sequart.org and is currently working on books about Neil Gaiman and Alan Moore for Sequart. She is @hannahmenzies on Twitter and hannahmenziesblog on WordPress.
4 Comments on On the Scene: WonderCon 2013, Nerdist’s Chris Hardwick Pushes Fan Empowerment, last added: 4/2/2013
This was such a fun panel to attend and Chris Hardwick was hilarious! Thanks for the fantastic review Hannah!
Rich Harvey said, on 4/2/2013 9:19:00 AM
“No longer do companies tell us what to watch”
Well, they never did. They create shows, product, whatever, and it was everyone’s choice to watch them. Just like all the upcoming product Hardwick plans to make.
I never understood how anyone could sit through “Talking Dead” right after “Walking Dead”. I suppose if you’re really into WD, then it’s fun to sit through 30 minutes of the most vapid “discussion” ever broadcast.
Mikael said, on 4/2/2013 9:57:00 AM
Nothing like seeing Chris stammer and stutter while calling Jeff Lemire and Scott Snyder the founds of Vertigo Comics. Derp. Way to let your producers put words in your mouth. Vapid is correct.
Any illusion I had that I was the only human being watching the new History Channel drama THE VIKINGS was shattered walking into a fully occupied large capacity convention hall, already packed fifteen minutes before the panel actually started. The description for the panel stated that some of the cast members would be there, but in fact, all three of the main cast members appeared, moderated by journalist Kate Hahn, and joined by History Channel EVP of Development and Programming Dirk Hoogstra.
And by the way, there are no aliens or Nazis in THE VIKINGS, at least not yet, but there is plenty of reasonably seasoned research into early medieval languages, cultures, and locations. The titular Vikings of the show are presented, refreshingly, as the protagonists, though the darker side to their pillaging lifestyles are equally represented. Visually stunning, the show’s on location shooting in Ireland and Northern Europe is one of its big selling points. The others virtues are strong acting and just telling a ripping good story of ambitious Ragnar Lodbrok as he seeks new territories to terrorize and vies for authority with a resentful and scheming local Earl. The strength of the show’s writing in the hands of Michael Hirst of THE TUDORS is also particularly apparent.
The panel opened with a season recap so far, highlighting Ragnar’s motivation in life. “Odin gave his eye to acquire knowledge but I would give far more”, he tells his twelve year old son. This quest drives the series and illustrates with plenty of axe swinging the maxim “be careful what you wish for, you just might get it”.
The impatient crowd were delighted when dynamic leading man Travis Fimmel appeared (Ragnar), but ecstatic when he was joined by female lead Katheryn Winnick (Lagertha) and the triad of central characters was completed by George Blagden (captured Anglo-Saxon monk Athelstan). Despite the simple entertainment value of hearing from the main actors on the series, the panel also revealed a lot about the research behind the series and the development of characterization for the central roles. Hoogstra mentioned the “struggle” the show faced in casting the key role of Ragnar until they met Fimmel, who “clicked” for them immediately, the difficulty of developing a “believable” mother/warrior role for “shield maiden” Lagertha, and constructing the character of Athelstan as a “go between” for the two worlds of pagan and Christian Europe.
When asked why they agreed to play their respective roles, the actors replied with personal anecdotes. Travis said, “I’m a bit of a kid at heart. You get to run around with an axe. Who wouldn’t want to be married to this lady?”. Travis was particularly animated and had the audience amused with his commentary, seeming to slip in an out of character. Winnick, a martial arts expert, said she was drawn to the strong writing, historical characters, and a fascination with Viking culture and mythology.
Some highlights from the panel discussion included Fimmel’s narration of working on replica Viking boats, one on the open water and one on a sound stage being battled by simulated storms, and Blagden’s very personal story of visiting the ruins of Lindisfarne, the monastery sacked by the Vikings during the show, and home to Athelstan, for character research. The actors displayed an impressive degree of enthusiasm and knowledge of the show’s subject matter, and spent plenty of time joking amongst each other about how their characters interact on screen, especially about sexual tensions.
The audience, particularly, wanted to know if the show would be renewed for future seasons, and Hoogstra said that he wasn’t able to comment on that yet, but that so far THE VIKINGS is a big success. Though the audience was sad to see the panel end, a preview of a tense, upcoming episode displaying some spectacular escapes by the diehard Ragnar consoled them. The rampant fandom displayed for THE VIKINGS at WonderCon was one of the most surprising panels of the show for sheer media wow factor.
Hannah Means-Shannon writes and blogs about comics for TRIP CITY and Sequart.org and is currently working on books about Neil Gaiman and Alan Moore for Sequart. She is @hannahmenzies on Twitter and hannahmenziesblog on WordPress.
1 Comments on On The Scene: WonderCon 2013, THE VIKINGS Invade!, last added: 3/31/2013
The Comic Con International: San Diego holds a Talkback Panel every year to try and figure out what went right and what went wrong. The format of the Talkback Panel does not lend itself to formation of easy narrative. One representative from CCI sits behind a desk and answers questions from the line of convention attendees, taking down notes and suggestions, and responding when necessary. This year, the task fell to John Rogers, President of Comic Con International’s Board of Directors, to moderate the panel.
I attend Talkback to start the process of bringing myself down from the experience of CCI. Four or five days of intense exposure to fantastic events and ideas alters attitudes and removes you from the experience of daily life. I love the intensity, but I need to land in the real world with the wheels down. Talkback helps to lower my mental landing gear.
When there are few problems in a given year, the panel can be full of compliments. When there are big problems, Talkback can be unpleasant.
So how, based on the questions formed by the experience of attendees, did the convention do this year? It did well- which is great for the convention. However, there are some troubling aspects that need to be addressed in the future. If you want to skip to the end, I’ll save you the trouble. I’m sure CCI will make substantial fixes to these areas, but they’ll need another Talkback panel in 2013. After all, a perfect convention wouldn’t need feedback.
The most troubling failure had to do with the treatment of disabled attendees getting into panels and having access to autograph lines and giveaways, the sort of things most attendees take for granted. For a handful of panels, and at least one panel each in Hall H and Ballroom 20, the security guards and line monitors took the number of specifically designated disabled seats (seats with a red covering) as the upper limit of how many disabled Attendees could be allowed into that panel. For instance, one attendee cited an instance where the guards allowed only 84 disabled individuals into Ballroom 20 because there were only 84 seats with the red covering (Ballroom 20 has around 3500 seats). This tactic was repeated elsewhere by what I hope were ill-informed and confused personnel. Another story related by an Attendee involved a woman on a walker being removed from an autograph line because she was “too bulky” (the words told to her as she was kicked out). There is no happy ending to any of the stories, but I took some level of comfort in the moderator’s extensive note-taking and additional questions as each attendee described their experience.
The incidents themselves are troubling enough, and they indicate a failure of training and communication with the support staff necessary to manage tens of thousands of people with tens of thousands of physical and mental differences. To make matters worse, CCI has had a traditionally robust and often commendable section dedicated to disabled services. While there’s usually one or two complaints at a given Talkback panel (out of two or three dozen attendees commenting), at least a third of the attendees had some story or request. With the culture getting unhealthier and the number of military personnel leaving service for one physical or mental issue or another, attention must be paid to this or CCI, and society in general, will have larger problems in the near future.
A popular topic at Talkback
15 Comments on SDCC 12: Comic Con Talkback 2012 Summary, last added: 7/18/2012
One issue for the Talkback Panel is that it only occurs on Sunday, so unless you attend Sunday you can’t provide any feedback. There are thousands of single day attendees (and even pros) earlier in the week, a demo that’s not being captured in this forum.
William Gatevackes said, on 7/17/2012 2:33:00 PM
A number of ideas were floated by attendees including a “Hall H” only pass- which was quickly downplayed by the moderator and the groan of the audience as such a creature would violate the conventions purpose of “celebrating the popular arts.”
So, being forced to camp out for three days before your chosen panel so you can get in, and if you do get in, you have to sit through panel after panel of presentations that hold no interest to you until you get to the one that does, while people who might be interested in said panels can’t get in because they couldn’t rearrange their schedules and are only able to wait six hours outside in the blazing sun, meanwhile, both groups of people are away from the con floor and all the exhibitors, artists, and vendors and therefore lacking being exposed to anything new, this is “celebrating popular arts?”
Okay then.
Linda said, on 7/17/2012 3:08:00 PM
I wish I had attended the Talkback panel. This was the first year I had a disabled pass/badge, and I was surprised at how little a difference it made. I was still made to stand in line after line (or elected to leave when I couldn’t manage to do so without much pain). Even within certain vendors there was confusion. One vendor with an extremely long line told me I would have to wait,but when I got to the break point in the line near the front, another representative told me I should have just come right to the front. Other vendors didn’t know what to do when a disabled person asked if there were any accommodations. As for the meeting rooms? I was so discouraged after being told there was no available disabled seating at a couple of smaller rooms that I dared not try for Hall H or Ballroom 20. I now wish I had pressed the matter, not that it would have made a difference, I suppose.
john shableski said, on 7/17/2012 4:04:00 PM
Maybe they(CCI:SD)could take on line registration for each and any of the panels at no additional cost to the attendees. They could register for the various panels after they have been confirmed to attend the show.
It would allow the attendees to spend less time waiting in lines and more time seeing the show. I believe the LA Times Festival of Books already uses this format.
Jimmie Robinson said, on 7/17/2012 4:30:00 PM
@Gort – Good point.
While I am sure a daily Talkback would make a board member groan, at the same time it would be important to catch problems *as* they occur during the show, which might give the organizers time to fix something later on in the show. It would also give them more feedback for specific events and problems. At this point, only the die-hard, 4-day passers, dead-doggers are able to contribute.
Perhaps a special online / email / blog / twitter / facebook connection could allow more people to communicate with the convention on a daily basis.
Though I’m sure that reading and filtering all that daily data would also be a daunting task. I don’t envy the organizers of such a huge event.
Trev said, on 7/17/2012 6:19:00 PM
I was at the panel and confused about the number of folks who seemed to feel entitled to exclusives because they were disabled. Is that really the way it should work?
Wrt rooms it seems like the number of disabled seats should reflect the disabled population of the con as a proportion.
One of the best ideas I heard was not nec line capping but reflecting the chance of entry based on position. The lines get so long that I can see it being difficult to understand where you really are in line against number of seats.
The woman pulled out of the image line is definitely a problem.
Accessibility is one thing. Privilege is another.
Todd said, on 7/17/2012 7:24:00 PM
No one brought up the problem of inconsiderate people blocking the aisles with their mini-SUV sized strollers?
john kenovi said, on 7/17/2012 7:44:00 PM
I have to agree with the issue about strollers. As a parent who had kids in strollers I never would have EVER considered dragging a baby through the swarms. It’s not safe for anyone.
Doug Abramson said, on 7/18/2012 12:49:00 AM
So, roughly ten to thirty thousand people can sit in the blazing sun for three or more hours to watch a baseball game several times during the warm weather months in San Diego, but making people sit in the same seats for an hour or so won’t work?
Torsten Adair said, on 7/18/2012 7:55:00 AM
“So, roughly ten to thirty thousand people can sit in the blazing sun for three or more hours to watch a baseball game several times during the warm weather months in San Diego, but making people sit in the same seats for an hour or so won’t work?”
Or STAND outside in a line for four hours…
I think a better reason for not using Petco is the multimedia. Unless the studios are willing to subsidize a giant LED screen in the infield…
Otherwise, it’s perfect… lots of bathrooms, concessions, you can sell VIP tickets for the box seats (or have corporations buy them, just like MLB). Lots of spaces to rent for various functions…
Heck, cover the playing field and errect tents! PetCoN!
Paul said, on 7/18/2012 9:19:00 AM
I liked the first person who spoke at the Talk-Back and their suggestion: something about a lottery.
IIRC, the idea was that after programming was announced, you would go online and put in for what you wanted, i.e. “Friday Hall H” or “Saturday Ballroom 20.” A lottery would determine if you got tix for those days in those halls.
If you have those tix, you need to show up at a certain time before the first panel. If you don’t, or leave at some point during that day’s panels, a standby line will be there for those without tix who will be given your spot.\
When you combine that with a live simulcast, you have a recipe for success. It’s time to end people having to camp out for a ridiculous amount of hours JUST to get in. Most people just want to get in, they don’t need to be in the front.
At CC 2008, lining up around 8am got me into Saturday Hall H. This year, it was 6am. At this rate, in a few years it will be 4:00am, and then 2:00am. UNLESS they do a lottery so people can have tickets and not wait in line for hours PLUS a live simulcast so people who can’t get in can still see the panels live.
Ryan said, on 7/18/2012 9:32:00 AM
Great panel coverage. This was the first time in nine years that I’ve taken the time to attend Talkback, and I’ll go back next year for sure. It’s fascinating to hear about the problems that would otherwise be completely hidden to me.
There was a fairly telling moment in the Talkback that you didn’t mention. An early question was predicated on the assumption that the convention center expansion would be built and the space allocated to some of the larger panels. The board president said, “I am aware of a potential plan to pay for an expansion. Do you see any construction? I’m not counting on it happening.”
Given that the con organizers have said publicly that, in the absence of a completed expansion at the end of their current contract, the convention is moving, it sounded to me like Comic-Con has one foot out of San Diego already.
Sean D. said, on 7/18/2012 10:00:00 AM
I’ve seen very little written about the lack of “redshirts” this year. Elite Security was nowhere to be found this year (well, Sunday I saw one Elite staffer working the parking lot in Little Italy. But as far as the convention…) With only a few exceptions, CSC (the yellow & black shirts)ran things VERY tight in the hour before the doors opened and, as this was the first year I recall them as the PRIMARY security team, it may have had a lot to do with their thinking the handicap seating would be limited to just what they saw as opposed to what Elite’s people had allowed.
Doug Abramson said, on 7/18/2012 10:58:00 AM
Torsten, the existing scoreboard in left-center field is already either LED or LCD and more than capable of showing the media clips; except, possibly any in 3D. If any panel was so popular, the seating bowl wound up being too small (not likely, but possible), the park area past the outfield has its own LCD screen to show the panel and clips to any overflow.
Ryan, historically the board has reason to be pessimistic. BUT, a financing plan is in place, the NIMBYs haven’t filed any lawsuits and the architectural work has been done. If there aren’t any environmental or Coastal Commission hold ups, I’d be cautiously optimistic.
Ryan said, on 7/18/2012 11:10:00 AM
Has the architectural work had any sort of public debut?
Nobody has any idea why this exists, which I guess is precisely why everybody should be thrilled to view it? After first being announced at San Diego during a strange, strange panel which featured live appearances from several members of the cast, the first episode of Marvel’s ALL-WINNERS SQUAD animated webseries has gone online, which sees basically every Marvel character worth caring about… assemble onto one team.
Not since The Champions have we had such a powerful lineup in the same room. We’ve got The Unicorn (Russia’s greatest villain!), Hypno Hustler, Frog-Man, Squirrel Girl, Howard the Duck, Ruby Thursday and Walrus all on this team, you guys. Ruby Thursday, I say! She’s the notch Wolverine is proudest of having on his bedpost. It’s an inspired lineup of heroes. Here’s a photo Marvel took at SDCC with three of the cast members, who are IRL here but are contained to cartoon in the video:
The video is a ridiculous piece of silliness, in which the characters gather round a conference table to find out why they’re there, and what the point of everything is. The basic plot gets set up – no spoilers – and looks like it could be a whole lot of fun. Ruby Thursday has a seductive robot voice. Hypno Hustler speaks exclusively in 1970s Blaxploitation nonsense. And Frog Man appears to be masturbating.
There is little to no reason for this to exist, although apparently Doop will also show up soon – and as everybody knows, Doop Is. So I suppose that will have to be reason enough.
Now, I know some of you are going to look at this and think that Marvel are making fun of the sad-acts who use the internet to talk about comics. Here we have a group of losers, who can’t make it on their own, desperately clinging onto Marvel to provide them with some small semblance of dignity and power. Some of them are perverts, some of them are fat, and one of them is a furry. ISN’T THAT BASICALLY WHAT A MESSAGE BOARD IS?
Not really, no. And hilariously forced subtext aside from me aside, this is quite a fun start. It’s obviously the most cheese you’ve ever seen in the history of your life, but Hypno Hustler alone makes it worth watching. It’s sad that winning characters like DARKSTAR and HEPZIBAH have yet to appear, but maybe – just maybe – this could be the place to finally see the return of Peter Milligan’s finest creation…. RAIN BOY?
Probably not. More likely are appearances from Deadpool, Pixie, D-Man and Batroc The Leaper. Expect a full breakdown once episode 2 hits the net!
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Steve Gerber’s Howard the Duck infected the Marvel Universe with some delightful yet bizarre creations. John Byrne used a few of them in his She-Hulk run, and the recent Deadpool Team-Up seems to have added some new craziness to that corner of the Marvel Universe.
It’s one of the things I like about Marvel… they are sometimes willing to be wacky. If this were a comic, I would read it avidly.
Oooh….
“The National Entertainment Collectibles Association, Inc. (NECA), in partnership with Marvel Consumer Products, will bring their notoriously hip creative to a full line of offbeat All-Winners Squad merchandise launching this fall. Toys, apparel and collectibles will celebrate the solidarity of these newly revived characters. The line casts the spotlight on each member of the All-Winners Squad, giving each a chance to shine individually as well as with their squad comrades.”
Please… add the White Rabbit! The team needs more women, and she has a history with Frog-Man and Walrus!
Aaron Ragan-Fore said, on 7/26/2012 4:35:00 PM
Evoking fond memories of one of DC’s weirdest output in recent years:
Labor Day Weekend is a circled on the calendar of free-spirits of all shapes and species, as WorldCon, Burning Man, Dragon*Con and PAX are all on the schedule — no matter what you like to dress up as, there’s definitely a place to parade around and search for someone else dressed up for the ultimate fantasy.
The Mary Sue has a nice little gallery of Atlanta’s Dragon*Con and Seattle’s PAX; we snagged the above new style Power Girl from the former.
MTV Geek has their Dragon*Con galleries arranged by category — comics, video games, etc.
And there’s this CNN GeekOut photo parade of the Dragon*Con costume parade, which also included Stan Lee and Lou Ferrigno. This parade always looks like a blast — people have been talking abotu some kind of mass parade for Comic-Con for a while, which we’re sure would be fun but maybe a logistical nightmare. Anyway, the takeaway is MORE PARADES.
Any idea what character that gold-and-white-and-lots-of-skin costume represents? I think a friend of mine was trying to describe that costume to me after a convention last year.
Synsidar said, on 9/4/2012 10:40:00 AM
Any idea what character that gold-and-white-and-lots-of-skin costume represents?
That’s the Phoenix Five version of Emma Frost.
SRS
Kevin J. Maroney said, on 9/4/2012 2:53:00 PM
Ah, of course it is. So, no, that wouldn’t be what my friend saw last year.
Kevin J. Maroney said, on 9/4/2012 2:56:00 PM
Also, that third picture is a mash-up costume, half Bane from Dark Knight Rises, half Lord Humongous from The Road Warrior. Nicely played!
Well, this is certainly one of the most British things I’ve ever heard. Please whistle the theme tune to The Archers while you read this article.
Yesterday Neil Gaimanannounced on his blog that BBC Radio 4 have gathered a stunning collection of actors to record a radio adaptation of his story Neverwhere, which was first seen on television in the 1990s. Co-written by Lenny Henry, the story was sort-of simultaneously adapted into a novel by Gaiman, which was subsequently rewritten and adapted into radio plays and, well, all sorts of stuff happened with it, really.
This adaptation for radio, however, has managed to gather an incredible line-up of actors – several of whom sent this message across to Gaiman, which he shared earlier:
Which sight excites you most? Manly David Harewood? Game of Throne’s Natalie Dormer? James McAvoy? Giles from Buffy? Benedict Crumpetpatch? Hold on tight, because this photo only skims the surface of an utterly incredible cast.
Also appearing will be Andrew Sachs, Sophie Okonedo, Christopher Lee, Don Gilet, Johnny Vegas, Bernard Cribbins, Lucy Cohu and Romola Garai. And that’s still not all! Gaiman also teases that there will be a few other secret cameos and appearances tucked in amongst everything else. Zoinks.
Scheduled for release as a 6-episode series in 2013, Neverwhere will be produced by Dirk Maggs. Okay, you can stop whistling now.
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You know how The Beat works now. While everybody else works hard on getting the best interviews, writing the strongest articles and the most incisive opinion pieces you could find, I run around in circles and yell excitedly about obscure D-List Marvel heroines.
Which brings us to the imminent arrival of 2012′s International Darkstar Day! A tradition dating back perhaps millennia, IDD celebrates Russia’s #1 Superhero, Laynia Petrovna!
Currently a member of The Winter Guard and absolutely not floating lifelessly in orbit around the Earth, Darkstar was first created by Tony Isabella and George Tuska in The Champions, before getting taken on by writers like Bill Mantlo, Fabian Nicieza and Kurt Busiek. Secretly one of Marvel’s most popular characters, or so I keep telling myself, she was killed off by Grant Morrison in New X-Men. Boooo! But then she triumphantly returnedto life in the greatest Marvel storyline of all time, Darkstar & The Winter Guard, by David Gallaher and Steve Ellis. Hurray!
How do we celebrate Darkstar Day? Well, let me elucidate ya. The basic premise of Darkstar Day is: people around the world draw pictures of Darkstar, and we post them online, and then we celebrate those pictures. It is… perhaps not the most revolutionary celebration. But it’s a fun one! If you want to take part, all you have to do is draw a picture of Darkstar – spend a week working on it or half a minute, it doesn’t matter – and then send it across to me at comicsvanguard@gmail.com. I will share every Darkstar I receive!
This year’s International Darkstar Day falls on the 18th December, so on that day I’ll be sharing some of the results with you right here, along with some of the great IDD offerings of the past. Guys, let’s do this! Tell your kids! Tell your parents! Gather around the fireplace and make IDD12 the biggest and best one yet!
Note: if you’d rather draw a picture of Pixie then that’s okay too
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Because all of Russia’s other heroes turn evil every time Iron Man needs to punch someone!
Darkstar!
Because someone needs to be sober!
Darkstar!
Because seriously it’s like the Titanium Man, Crimson Dynamo and like 40 inexplicably asian generals with acromegaly and names like General Korg. And I guess that one red guardian who is maybe a lady, I dunno. Wiki is hard!
Darkstar!
abc said, on 12/11/2012 11:07:00 AM
darkstar, i see you in the morning
darkstar, sleeping next to me
darkstar, let the memory of the evening
be the first thing that you think of
when you open up your smile and see me, darkstar……….
crosby, stills, & nash
Torsten Adair said, on 12/11/2012 11:11:00 AM
Isn’t that Ms. Marvel?
No wait… I was thinking of Captain Marvel.
At least the star is not a boob window.
Torsten Adair said, on 12/11/2012 11:15:00 AM
Um…. She’s from Minsk, Belarus, not Russia. (Yeah, go ahead and make the “Belle-Russian” joke.)
Pantsless Pete said, on 12/11/2012 12:14:00 PM
Darkstar!
Once married her dad in one of the creepiest storylines ever!
Darkstar!
Steve said, on 12/11/2012 12:21:00 PM
That was the OTHER Darkstar!
Darkstar was born in Belarus, yes, but she is a Russian citizen. She tried to gain American citizenship but ultimately it was revoked and she was sent home.
Steve said, on 12/11/2012 12:22:00 PM
I do endorse the composing of traditional folk songs about Darkstar, however. Please continue with such endeavours!
Pantsless Pete said, on 12/11/2012 12:28:00 PM
Darkstar!
There’s been two?
Darkstar!
At least she doesn’t talk like Yakoff Smirnoff!
Darkstar!
I’m the only one finding this funny, aren’t I?
Darkstar!
Tony Isabella said, on 12/11/2012 12:38:00 PM
Yeah, but does anyone ever send me a goddamn card?
No!
What’s up with that?
Henry Barajas said, on 12/11/2012 2:48:00 PM
WHO ARE YOU CALLING D-LIST? Dark Star’s the Bruce Campbell of Marvel!
weird news said, on 12/12/2012 1:31:00 AM
Darkstar Marvel heroines.Im fan….
Brian said, on 12/12/2012 4:31:00 AM
I used to like Darkstar back in the day. I used to play that Russian superhero group in the old Marvel RPG (old school pen and paper style).
Pedro Bouça said, on 12/12/2012 4:57:00 AM
Hey, I like Darkstar! She was the ONE interesting new (or old…) character in the Champions series. A pity she never again went into the spotlight until she was fridged by Morrison, darn him!
And she has a psycho uberpowered dad and a harcore commie brother, cool!
If superhero readers would ever be interested in reading about such a character (exceedingly unlikely), she could have some great stories.
The big day is finally here! Ladies and gentlemen of The Beat, gather your young ones and race onto the street. Proclaim for all to hear, TODAY IS INTERNATIONAL DARKSTAR DAY, AND I FEEL GREAT!!!!
On this day we share the joy of Darkstar, Marvel’s least celebrated yet best superhero. Now you’ve returned back to your computer fresh from the street, lungs aching from the stress and feet covered in dirt (you could’ve at least put some shoes on, y’know – but I admire your impatience), let us bask in some of the art sent to me by a bevy of lovely artists!
First up is Isaac Leiro, whose work you can find every week at Stardark City. He offered both black/white and coloured versions of her, and I simply couldn’t choose between them. So I include both!
Up next is the work of Dr Sonic, who cuts characters into shape via construction paper and a rather sharp knife. Find him at http://docgold16.tumblr.com!
Zhaxra offers a redesign (and new haircut) for Laynia Petrovna with his piece here, and you can find more of his art over at his DeviantArt page!
Brilliant ol’ Rance Sims also offers a smart new redesign for the character, which captures ALL her class! He is on DeviantArt too!
Finally…. oh dear, Isaac Leiro’s shown up again. And this time… well.
Folks, International Darkstar Day is also my birthday. Can you even believe just how self-indulgent this entire post has been? I certainly can! But at least we all got some lush and tidy artwork out of it, can you not agree? What a great day this is. Three cheers for Darkstar! And hey — not forgetting…
EDIT!! More Darkstar has just arrived, from Studio YOLO’sChrista Cassano! If you look out the window right now, you’ll be able to see a small trail of sparks flying up out of sight, because MY HEAD JUST EXPLODED!
A Merry Christmas and Happy Holiday to all, and to all… A HAPPY INTERNATIONAL DARKSTAR DAY!
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And I thought this post was John-Carpenter-related…
Mesektet said, on 12/18/2012 8:26:00 AM
Sasha Roerich would totally kick Laynia Petrovna’s ass! And is 14 times more awesome!
Happy Darkstar Day
Pedro Bouça said, on 12/18/2012 8:59:00 AM
Nah, Laynia is the Sensational Character Find of 1976! By far the most interesting character on the Champions team (I read the TPBs recently and it’s no contest). OK, damning with fint praise, but she is a great character who deserves better than just be a foreign hero in the Marvel universe (AKA crossover fodder).
Shawn Hill said, on 12/18/2012 9:45:00 AM
One of the best mutants ever! I wish she’d fight the Vanisher again!
Steve said, on 12/18/2012 9:47:00 AM
Sasha Roerich is ALSO a favourite! You can’t go wrong no matter which of the three Darkstars you choose as your favourite.
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You folks do realize that Grant Morrison actually announced this news LAST WEEK on his two part interview on Kevin Smith’s Fatman on Batman podcast?
the Tiki
Steve said, on 2/25/2013 6:18:00 AM
“HOWEVER: The Beat is safe to read!”
…except for the way the headline on the front page mentions the publisher of the comic, and the general category of the event being spoiled, which narrows things down somewhat.
I’m trying to get over my aversion to spoilers, because that seems easier than getting the entire internet to avoid discussing something, but c’mon, you’re not completely innocent here.
In the interest of helping The Beat preserve its admirable spoiler-free-zone goal, I will point out that a link to Allen’s article was double-posted to Facebook this morning and because the default thumbnail option* was left in, said links contain the cover of the comic in question, which in turn features the character in question.
Didn’t bother me as I immediately clicked the link to read the article anyhow, and I generally don’t worry about spoilers; just an FYI in case this contradiction wasn’t previously noticed by Beat staff.
* I know it was the default option because I in turn shared one of the double posts with a comics-focused FB group I belong to and while the comic cover was the default thumbnail, two other spoiler-free options were available in addition to turning off the thumbnail completely.
David said, on 2/25/2013 3:53:00 PM
In general, not reading the comments tends to be a good idea.
Jason Green said, on 2/25/2013 4:24:00 PM
“But the real thing to note is that DC Comics will be running the spoiler in all their comics this week, running in the back as part of their ‘Channel 52′ feature. If you read a comic from DC this week and it DOES NOT feature a shocking moment which is almost worthy of being WTF, then don’t go beyond the final page! Because Channel 52 will spoil the story for you.”
This is one of the dumbest things I’ve ever heard.
Al™ said, on 2/25/2013 5:16:00 PM
Speaking of spoilers, (don’t worry, I am NOT GOING TO SPOIL ANYTHING) the local movie theatre takes the cake.
When I was there on the weekend to see the new Bruce Willis DieHardForeverAndEver movie, the preshow interview segment told us all about the movie. Then there was the trailer (‘spoiler’) for the actual movie, played about 5 minutes before the movie started.
Okay, enough.
jesses slide said, on 2/26/2013 5:58:00 AM
Marvel spoils everything all the time now even in their own advanced solicitations. You even want readers avoiding listings directly from the publisher so they can’t even choose which comics to buy or read? Its always see no evil, hear no evil which is the same as the pot calling the kettle black.
We all want Wonder Woman to be in a movie. In fact, I’m going to go out on a limb and say we want her to be in EVERY film. And every TV show. Maybe a few music videos. But for one reason or another, we’re repeatedly disappointed by a world which does not seem to share our desire for Diana to take over the entirety of culture. She can’t get a TV show off the ground, her film scripts never get put anywhere near production, and Nicki Minaj hasn’t dressed up as her ONCE.
So step-forward first-time director Jesse V. Johnson, a stunt co-ordinator who has worked on films like Lincoln, Thor, and Spider-Man, to show how it’s done. Johnson today uploaded a film trailer for Wonder Woman, to show off his ability as a director for potentially-interested parties… and it’s pretty darned good, you guys. It’s even got this poster, created by Robert Sebree.
Casting actress Nina Bergman as Wonder Woman and Peter-flipping-Stormare as her Nazi captor, this fan film captures basically everything William Marston could have possibly wanted to see in a Wonder Woman movie. There’s fighting, and empowerment, some light bondage, and even a touch of psychological theory. Johnson describes the project’s origins:
It was my manager / producing partner Kailey Marsh’s idea to shoot the trailer. She really believes I should be a studio director, and thought shooting Wonder Woman would be a great way to show off my skills in a fun way that people could get excited about.
So without further ado, here’s the trailer for the movie. What do you think?
Though I’d like to see her in more than just the traditional costume. It looks odd fighting in such skimpy clothes during WWII. Even the Captain America movie had to deal with that problem. Perhaps it would work better (for me) if the costume we all know and love was revealed as a new look when she made it to the modern day scene at the end.
But it’s a business card trailer — used for promoting his talents as a filmmaker, not the character so much. So I get it. Good luck to him.
Lindazilla said, on 2/27/2013 4:28:00 PM
Not impressed. (on any level) That was like a 2 minute lesson in ‘action cliche’.
Steve said, on 2/27/2013 4:36:00 PM
Yeah, really bad.
Nate said, on 2/27/2013 6:44:00 PM
Those are some tight shorts … “booty shorts?” She seemed too small for WW for me. Really, I liked the David E. Kelly actress better.
KET said, on 2/27/2013 6:46:00 PM
About as good as Zack Snyder could have done. However, the lead actress is very good with what she’s been given to do.
Steve Morris said, on 2/28/2013 12:26:00 AM
Hah! You win this round, Nicki Minaj!
Monica said, on 2/28/2013 4:05:00 AM
Yeah, I wish they’d give Tyra from Friday Night Lights another shot with a better writer.
zayed said, on 2/28/2013 9:50:00 AM
dat ass
jimmy palmiotti said, on 2/28/2013 9:56:00 AM
Seems a trailer for something else…with the WW suit thrown in. Nice work though. Love fan trailers. I think the most successful one I have seen is the Tom Jane Punisher one.
Keyser said, on 2/28/2013 11:09:00 AM
Hmmm, I think he did a nice job. Though I think it’s too dark ala the Nolan crap that people keep going to. The costume is kinda close to the original costume, but seeing Wonder Woman firing the gun seems off to me.
I think the best guy who does these, or who does the best Batman at least, is Sandy Collora. His Batman Dead End is still the way I’d rather see Batman on screen.
Morgan Spurlock’s documentary recapping the 2010 Comic-Con will premiere at the Toronto Film Festival, it’s being reported. The film — backed by a nerd pantheon of people like Stan Lee, Joss Whedon and Thomas Tull — was show at last year’s con and was expected to perhaps debut at this year’s, but Spurlock is going for a bigger film venue in TIFF.
The film follows seven attendees, and although the final line-up isn’t known, Chuck Rozanski has talked about how he was filmed for the movie (possibly breaking NDAs in the process.) Also, John Layman was seen being followed by a camera crew everywhere, and may appear in the final cut.
Comic-Con: Episode IV – A Fans Hope
Morgan Spurlock, USA World Premiere
Have you ever imagined a place where Vulcans and vampires get along? Where wizards and wookies can be themselves? Welcome to Comic-Con San Diego. What started as a fringe comic book convention for 500 fans has grown into the pop culture event of the year that influences every form of entertainment, now attended by over 140,000. Comic-Con Episode Four: A Fan’s Hope explores this cultural phenomenon by following the lives of seven attendees as they descend upon the ultimate geek mecca. Includes interviews with Stan Lee, Josh Whedon, Frank Miller and Matt Groening.
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i can’t wait for spurlock to make some really obvious point that people have known for decades and present it as a mind blowing revelation.
he’s a snappy documentarian and generally entertaining craftsman, but i shudder to think of what going to be this film’s thesis. ‘look, nerds being accepted! outrageous costumes and behavior passed off as NOT outrageous. WOW!’
barf.
Andrew Farago said, on 8/3/2011 12:09:00 PM
I got interviewed for this just under the wire on Comic-Con Sunday last year, and am curious to see if I made the cut. The main thing I remember about the experience was just how busy everyone on the crew was, and how much makeup they’ll apply to your face so that your skin has a nice, even tone when it’s blown up to movie-screen size.
Matthew Fabb said, on 8/3/2011 2:38:00 PM
Well, as someone from the Toronto area, this sounds awesome. I hope to get tickets when it’s playing here. Perhaps even tickets to the premiere, but I imagine those might be hard to get.
Mr. Tony Lee, author of many Doctor Who and soon MacGyver stories, has posted some thoughts on guest behavior at cons, basically saying that if you are a paid-for guest, you should stay a guest after hours, and not just on the show floor.
I’ve seen ‘celebrity guests’ at conventions make children cry because they wanted to say hello to their icon at a time when they weren’t signing, or on a panel – only to be told to ‘**** off.’ I’ve seen other such guests drunk in a convention bar and insulting fans – the very same fans who’s fandom got them invited in the first place – and mocking costumes, outfits or even physical characteristics. I know a couple of writers, artists and actors who I would deem as socially impotent, and I’ve seen them too destroy the belief that a young fan has in them by blowing off a panel because the hall was too crowded, the ‘wrong type of fan’ was in or (more often) shouting at them in a bar. Writers and artists are a solitary bunch – used to working alone. It makes sense that we don’t do well in crowds. But to actually attend such an event and not acknowledge the people who got you there? Insane, in my opinion. And I saw way too much of it in San Diego.
In my opinion, and it’s something I try to live to, if a convention pays for me to fly out to them, puts me up in a hotel? Then I’ll damn well earn that faith. I’ll do panels, signings, meet and greets, whatever’s required. And more importantly, I’ll spend time in the lobby with the fans, in the bar with the fans. Because a convention in a hotel is usually a 24 hour experience. I want to ensure the fans have the best time ever, and come back to the convention next year. I did a convention last year where out of the fifteen guests, I was the only one who actually did this one night – and it was one of the best convention evenings I’ve had. When I do San Diego, New York, even places like the MCM Expo, I’ll hang out in the evening with the fans who I’ve met at these conventions, often over other writers, artists and editors. Not because I don’t like the writers, not because I really like the fans (though many of these are now solid friends) – but largely because I’m still working. I’m still wearing the tie.
I can see both sides of this. While remaining friendly and approachable at all times is a very valuable skill, some socially awkward (or even downright scary) fans don’t respect boundaries, and remaining on “after hours” could be misconstrued.
On the other hand, Tony’s idea of having a “uniform” (tie and waistcoat) that signifies when he’s “on duty” makes sense too.
What does everyone else think?
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I think he’s right. I haven’t had any negative experiences with fans so far, but I’m a grown up and can handle that if it comes my way. I’ve had dozens of GREAT interactions with people outside the convention itself, including someone sharing rum with me as we sat in the sun outside Ralph’s, that I wouldn’t trade for the world.
To me it’s a convention, not a show–there is no “backstage”, and that’s what makes it fun.
I think bad behavior–from fans and from creators–is totally unacceptable, and positive, inclusive vibes are what I think conventions are for.
Tony Lee said, on 8/5/2011 1:30:00 PM
That’s a little bit black / white, Heidi. I’m not talking about people having to ALWAYS be on call. I say that I am, but that’s a personal thing.
I’m saying that I think there are people in the business who are paid / put up by a con who could do a little more for the fans than just a single signing, and could be a little more approachable outside of the con. Many are, I just saw a lot more of the other side at SDCC recently.
Nyssa23 said, on 8/5/2011 1:55:00 PM
As a fan (and not one of those stalkery ones), I really liked Tony’s take on this. I recently attended my first Dr. Who con and was very impressed by the willingness of many guests to interact with us. I’d never heard of some of them beforehand, but I have sought out their work since!
Lars Jensen said, on 8/5/2011 3:24:00 PM
Tony Lee is right. If you’re a paid-for convention guest, you don’t blow off or insult fans just because they dare to approach you outside “office hours”.
Russell Lissau said, on 8/5/2011 3:35:00 PM
As I’ve already told Tony, his message is spot on, at least as far as my approach to cons goes. When I’m a guest at a show, I’m there to sell my books but also to interact with fans and ensure everyone has a good experience. That means spending a few hours at the con bar or chatting up fans at breakfast or hanging out in the lobby. And that’s fun for me,thank goodness.
I agree with the uniform approach, too. In my real life and at cons, I change my clothes to get more comfortable… But it also indicates a psychological shift. When I trade the jeans and dress shirt for shorts and flip flops, it means I’m in casual mode… But if I’m at the con bar, please come up and say hi and let’s talk comics. Buy me drinks, we can talk all night!
Charles Skaggs said, on 8/5/2011 3:39:00 PM
Tony Lee speaks the truth! As bad as some fans can be, I’ve seen just as many so-called professionals acting equally bad or worse. However, because they’re pros (and therefore considered to be a higher form of life than fans), such behavior is generally excused and/or ignored.
And if only the concept of “being professional” applied to the internet as well…
Alan J. Porter said, on 8/5/2011 4:34:00 PM
I totally agree with Tony. Especially on the “work uniform” idea.
I’m lucky enough that in my day-job I get to work from home about 50% of the time, and in my home office it’s shorts and a t-shirt. But the other 50% of the time I’m on the road visiting clients. Then it’s all Brooks Brothers, including shirt and tie. In fact I’m known for often being the only tie wearing guy on a project. From the time I get up, to the time I get back to my hotel in the evening (often late) , as long as I’m in Brooks Brothers mode, then I’m on duty, even if its hanging about in the bar, or chatting over dinner.
I try to carry the same approach over to conventions and signings. Although I don’t go for the business look (Somebody named Lee already had the shirt, tie and waistcoat thing!) I have my signing “uniform” – usually a collarless white cotton shirt that my daughter refers to as my “hippy shirts.” When I’m wearing that I’m there on business. I make time for my clients. And my clients are fans, as well as editors, and other creators.
(One aside I do sometimes wear t-shirts at signings, but that’s usually connected with the book – for instance when I did a recent rash of signings for the Disney*Pixar CARS comic I wore Lightning McQueen t-shirts – which the kids loved. In fact I had one kid come to three consecutive signings just to compare McQueen t-shirts with me!)
Every convention, and signing, is a business trip, and should be treated as such.
Ian Boothby said, on 8/5/2011 4:42:00 PM
The biggest mistake a professional can make is going to a con and thinking that the panel they’re on is about them. You’re here for the people in the audience who paid to get in, who buy your work and pay your rent.
I get very annoyed at panels where creators go on and on shooting the breeze with each other and then run out of time for Q & A. The Q & A is more important than any other part of the panel to me.
As a pro you’re there for (I don’t want to say “fans” because I don’t think it’s our place to call anyone else that, it’s something you can call yourself) the audience.
I wish I had Tony’s bar stamina. After the con itself I’m happy to talk to people but often I have deadlines that don’t stop because of the con and I’m just exhausted. But I’m always grateful to people who take the time to come out and say hi.
Russell Lissau said, on 8/5/2011 7:10:00 PM
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Right on.
Every year I talk about our con experience with my group of like-minded friends in comics, and we’re amazed by the people set up in AA who don’t understand This Is a Business. People who don’t acknowledge the potential customers walking by, who are rude to customers, who dismiss potential sales by their actions or dress or attitudes. It boggles my mind.
Mind you these are two separate kinds of incidents: Lee seems to be talking about more incidental meetings, while Wheaton is talking about autograph hounds/stalkers.
Tony Lee said, on 8/6/2011 1:18:00 AM
In fairness, when / if I become as famous as Wil, I reserve the right to change my mind and hate everyone ;)
Tony Lee said, on 8/6/2011 1:22:00 AM
Not that Wil does, of course – I’D just want to hate everyone.
And I’ve read the piece by Wil – unfortunately for celebrities there’s this growing league of Ebayers who demand everything signed so they can immediately flog it, who’ll hunt you across a country just so you can be the last on the list to sign a poster – so they can sell it.
And that’s not a fan to me.
Charles Knight said, on 8/6/2011 3:38:00 AM
The big question is why we are all so scruffy – what happened to style? The US and the UK seems to an endless sea of people in badly fitting t-shirts and jeans.
OK, maybe I took the wrong message from this post :-)
Torsten Adair said, on 8/7/2011 4:26:00 PM
In my first five years of conventions, I always wore a cartoon tie with a casual look (what I used to wear at the bookstore). I was a fan, but I figured I would be making a first impression with people, and wanted to be something memorable (how many fans wear a tie at conventions?)
Now, I’m a bit more casual… usually a sports or dress shirt and a casual blazer (extra pockets to hold stuff!) I’m still polite, maybe even a bit shy at times (I don’t socialize well alone).
But certainly, as celebrities or professionals, you should be open to meeting people. Those connections might create opportunities later. If there’s a difficult person, there are ways to deal with that. If one is spent after the official hours, then find a private restaurant or retreat to your room.
And to those creative types running comic book companies? If you know a photographer is coming, change that t-shirt for a polo shirt, or toss on a blazer. You’ll look less like a college frat boy (that is, more professional).
Russell Lissau said, on 8/7/2011 5:31:00 PM
When I’m exhibiting, my con attitre typically is blue jeans, and a button down shirt over a nice t-shirt. One day I always wear a hockey jersey, typically Fridays. I love hockey, and it’s become tradition. If I have to be professional at night for panels or whatever, I don a fresh shirt. Sometimes khaki pants.
As much as I’d love to wear blazers, it’s just too hot in Chicago in the summer to do so. And these con halls never are air conditioned enough.
Russell Lissau said, on 8/7/2011 5:38:00 PM
I often do a BREAKING INTO COMICS panel at cons and one of my chief pieces of advice is, don’t cosplay. I love fans who cosplay, but you can’t walk up to editors or pros and expect to be taken seriously as a potential employee if you’re dressed as Green Lantern.
If you want to be taken seriously, dress seriously. See Brandon seifert, Tony Lee, rants hoseley or Brian azzarello for top examples.
Russell Lissau said, on 8/7/2011 5:39:00 PM
That should be RANTZ, of course. Damn iPad autocorrect.
And to think I almost didn’t go to the Baltimore Comic-Con. Like many I was feeling pretty conned out, but in the end the idea of a short road trip to an always relaxing show — and covering the Harveys — won out, so I was off on a road trip with Ed Catto of Bonfire Agency and Captain Action fame, and Josh Frankel, founder of new publisher Zip Comics. Beginning as it did at 7:30 am, the trip down was a coffee-driven affair, as we discussed our various endeavors and ideas for improvements and prognostications for the future. While all three of us are born optimists, the current uncertainties and question marks left any real attempts at planning akin to spitting into the wind. Future cloudy; ask again later.
I was checking twitter on the way down, and saw many reports of long lines to get into the show. When we arrived at noonish, I wasn’t surprised to see the Baltimore Convention Center was humming, and the streets right around it were practically…clogged with con-goers.
Inside, it was a madhouse! Cramped aisles and huge lines everywhere. I’ve been going to this show for nearly a decade, and I’ve always thought of it as “the relaxing show” where you could just hang around and gab. Not this time! Everyone was busy signing and (I hope) selling.
As I wrote in my official piece for Publishers Weekly, a lot of this was due to the appearance of Stan Lee. The living legend has been making quite a few convention appearances lately, but this was his first Baltimore. There was a huge, huge line for the “Froggy’s photos” booth, which went partway into a whole hall that had been set aside for the overflow. People paid $195 to get their picture taken with Stan — even more to get an autograph. Whatever of you think of the motivation for this, 88-year-old Stan’s stamina in sitting there and being “the Man” for hundreds of people is incredible. He was signing and being photographed all day; I, conversely, had to bail out of the hall after someone spilled coffee on me.
But as I also observed in the above piece, people with the Stan Lee VIP lanyards were everywhere in the hall. As often noted, Baltimore is a comics ONLY show. There are no celebrities — not even a Lou Ferrigno. No movie panels. No TV sneak peeks. It’s all comics. There was no way that all those people were there for anything but comics. (I know you could argue that Stan is a movie star, and certainly his fame has moved into the “personality” realm, but his appeal is rooted firmly in comics.)
Costumes were everywhere — I’ve noted before that Baltimore is a very family-oriented show where entire families go in costume. There were quite a few Two and a Half Avengers costume groups, but just more of everything than in past years. More girls, more people of color, more Jedi. The culture
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I seriously doubt that people were charged $195 for a pic with Stan Lee. “Froggy’s” usually charges $40 at the NYCC show and at Comic con for a pic with Stan. Same for autographs: it’s $50 a pop ( that’s expensive enough! ). I hope you got your facts straight on the rest of the article.
Marc Nathan and Brad Tree. Making comic book conventions about comic books, comic creators, and comic fans. ‘Nuff said!
Dan Veltre said, on 8/23/2011 9:38:00 AM
Was there for most of Saturday and Sunday. It was the best show I’ve attended in years – NYCC is fun but a little too hectic for a guy my age. I was able to get a little business in, ran into some old friends, and really had a lot of fun. A relatively stress-free show. I highly recommend it! I’m already making plans for next year. Damn if Baltimore isn’t a great town for a convention like this. Just think, in a couple of years everyone will be carrying around their iPads and having them signed [ ;) ].
Dan
Dewey’s Comic City
Madison, NJ
ed said, on 8/24/2011 12:57:00 PM
Sounds like a good time was had by all.
“… the anti-dote to San Diego?” for East Coast Comic Cons? I thought that was supposed to be NYCC; but with the BCC’s Comics Guest List
that replicated a bunch of the variety and scope of the attending Guests at this past SDCC
, I guess it has a greater hold on that claim
(barring the SDCC Special Guests Filipino Komikeros and Brit Invasion creators, BCC no-shows and cancellations, that is).Still, quite a collection of Comics creators that contrasts favorably compared to the upcoming MARVEL and DC/Superstars of the ’90s -dominated NYCC List…
“antidote” seems to oversell the strenght of the BBC: maybe “the non-Brand Name, generic option to SDCC” is better? All the COMICS range and history found in San Diego, just w/o the damn SF/FANTASY and TV/FILMS presence there
cluttering it up. (Though I imagine Baltimore-area fans wouldn’t have minded had there been some DOCTOR WHO… AVENGERS… and TRUE BLOOD presentations there at the Con.) And with reports of certain crowding issues, seems like ‘SDCC-esque’ line clusterfucks are just a year or two away as BCC’s success draws in more attendees next year.
Nice report.
(But where’s that traditional yearly SDCC wrap-up report? Been waiting for it— once again to compare my Comic-Con experience with The Beat’s—- but it seems to be missing this year. Wondering if ‘the year we all learned to DEAL WITH IT’ removed the impetus for the usual rundown of plaints and critcisms… Looking forward for the usual NYCC wrap-up, though.)
/fun with Con anaylses
Bill Gatevackes said, on 8/25/2011 6:49:00 PM
If you wanted the Stan Lee V.I.P., it would cost you $195 and you would get one signature and one photo as part of the package, although you would be first in line if you wanted a second one of either.
If you chose not to buy the V.I.P. package, you could have bought a photo from Froggy’s for $40 (which I did for me and my family) or get something signed for $55 through Desert Wind Comics, which I believe also included having your item CGC’d if it was CGC-able.
I have no stake in either company, but just wanted to set the record straight.
abc said, on 8/25/2011 8:16:00 PM
as i stated on another thread about the baltimore con, the crowds on saturday blew me away. it gets to the point where it gets kind of hard to navigate around them when they are standing in a line that’s going nowhere fast. here’s what i don’t get: there is a absolutely huge room with a concession stand in it, with at least half of this room cordoned off with tables and chairs for folks to eat and relax and the other half of the room being used for absolutely nothing, just a big empty space. why this space can’t be used for signings with some of the more popular creators is beyond me. other than that the show as usual was great. another perk of the stan lee VIP tickets was anybody holding a VIP pass would get into the show a half hour earlier than the rest of the attendees (considering saturday’s crowds, well worth the dough) and VIP ticket holders would be first on line for the stan lee panel (tho’ the VIPers filled less than half of the 800 seat room when seated), and dan veltre is right, baltimore is a great town to have this convention in. always something to do.
This weekend’s Geek Girl Con in Seattle sounds like it was a big success; both Saturday and Sunday sold out, and while the above news report doesn’t make it look like it was sardine-land, maybe selling out before you get to that point is not a bad idea.
Gail Simone has a lengthy write-up that deserves to be read in full; the idea of a female-run and female-centric convention seems to be fairly emblematic of the time and place we find ourselves in, and it sounds like the programming, in particular, was noteworthy:
The programming was astounding, there were panels I was dying to attend and could not. Usually, I’m sorry, I don’t feel any big need to see most panels at cons…these were fascinating topics and I sat in quietly in the audience in some. I can’t tell you how fun it was, for a change, to see a packed room, with 80 percent female audiences over and over. And not just for panels about Harry Potter, but for scholarly and ethical panels. It was so exciting. They even had a token male panel, called the VERY SPECIAL DUDES panel, which was really awesome. The guys were great sports about it, and I think they all really enjoyed the gender-flip of this event.
Some panels were quiet as they attempted to get a shy audience sharing and speaking, and other panels had SO MUCH ENERGY you could not help but laugh, clap and cheer to celebrate what this event was creating. Geek Girl Con 2011 was a complete sell out, and if in the first year that is not a success, I don’t know what is.
The “Women In Star Wars” panel is a candid conversation examining female characters in Star Wars lore. The panelists include Mercedes Santaella-Lam (moderator), Misty Buxton, Deunan Berkeley, Sarah Silverman, and Amy Sjoberg. These women are impressively talented, with great sewing ability and they bring with them a vast knowledge about the Star Wars movies, the original books and fan produced literature. It is interesting to see that people see Star Wars as mostly male, in characters, because of the movies, ignoring characters in the books. This panel indirectly highlights there effect, in Hollywood, where many movies feature mostly male characters, even to the point of eliminating characters from books.
Geek Girl Con was a lot of fun. I did a signing, sold a couple of books, the presentation went well, and I found a couple of really cool things – like Ada’s Bookstore and Tracy who runs the charmingly named
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I’m sorry I missed out on this! It’s on my radar for next year.
Allen Rubinstein said, on 10/10/2011 8:06:00 PM
Is sardine-land the opposite of a sausage-fest?
ed said, on 10/11/2011 3:10:00 PM
Is sardine-land the opposite of a sausage-fest?
LOL!
Funny how “sausage fest” comes up in opposition to this though… esp with NYCC coming up:
Looking over the NYCC 2011 Guest List, it’s a decidedly Male-centric affair:
Just going over the “Comics Guests” section, I found 34 Spotlight Guests listed: a cross-section of Comics creators from Adam Kubert to Frank Miller to Joe Quesada to Todd McFarlane… and not one woman listed.
It gets a little better with the Featured Guests: out of the 175 Comics people listed there, a whole 11 are women— including Amanda Connor, Bonnie Burton, Olivia, and Renee Witterstaetter.
Making that a TOTAL of 11 women out of 209 “Comics Guests” for this year’s NYCC.
Here’s to the continued success of GEEKGIRL CON
to provide the sardine-land Comics counter to the sausage-fest of NYCC each Fall Convention season. Along with APE’s Alt/Indie focus, GGC’s “female-run, female-centric” status should provide needed Oct. options to the Mainstream/Fanboy-dominant convention there at Javits… fittingly— and symbollically?— held on an opposite Coast.
/fun with Con analyses
Jennifer deG said, on 10/11/2011 3:25:00 PM
I had the most FABULOUS time! I’ll be writing a report soon. What I am amazed at is how active female fandom is — it’s all about engagement, creation, and analysis.
Via Crunchyroll, a translation of a 2chan chart which shows which kinds of otaku are the craziest and cause the most trouble.
In case you’re wondering about the “train” part that occupies the Michele Bachmann spot on the chart, it does not refer to various colloquial meanings of the word “train.” It means fans who like…trains.
You know, toot toots.
Just what is it that makes them so crazy? Known as tetsudo otaku, train fans have long been looked on with suspicion by the Ahakibara crowd — Irvine Welsh is universal, it seems — but a band of younger, more energetic trainspotters has revitalized the subculture:
…a new “Train Boom” started in 2007, when events such as the Great Railway Expo began to capture the popular imagination, and famous folk started to openly gush about love for trains. The Nomura Research Institute has suggested the number of train otaku today might be closer to 140,000. At any station in the Tokyo metropolitan area, there is inevitably a young man (or woman or family) at the end of the platform openly snapping shots of incoming trains.
The charismatic “train talent” Masumi Toyoka was among the first to embrace this trend, lending her voice to the wildly popular anime Tekko no Tabi (“Train Girl’s Journey”), which helped legitimize and bring train otaku into the mainstream in fall 2007. In fact, no longer are these fans included in the dark ranks of “otaku,” but rather as the much cuter tecchan (for males) and tekko (for females). Following Toyoka’s lead, Yuko Kimura based her entire idol persona on her love of trains, inventing her own category of tetsudoru, or “train idol.”
After digging around a little, we even found links to videos of hot girls crushing tiny train villages. The Japanese know how to do everything the best.
Confidentially, we’re big train fans here at Stately Beat Manor. It’s our favorite mode of transportation and a viewing of RUNAWAY TRAIN or EMPEROR OF THE NORTH is a great way to relax. But even so, we’re not quite sure why so many people in so many cultures get so darned excited about keeping their train journals.
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Otaku railfans are known as “Foamers” by railroad employees.
Ferroequinologist exist wherever trains exist, and, like any fandom, occupy a wide spectrum of fascinations and expertise.
It does even extend to the New York City subway. There have been reports of at least one person pretending to be a conductor (and driving a train), and there is a world record of the shortest time it takes to ride the complete system (line bashing, or in this specific case, “subway challenge”). See also: Tube Challenge. MORNINGTON CRESCENT!
There is a variation of trainspotting in the subway: some fans make note of every train car they ride in.
For those here whose Venns intersect to cover rails and graphics (Harry Beck!), I recommend two titles:
Transit Maps of the World
Railway Maps of the World
both by Mark Ovenden.
If you want to know more about the NYC subway (such as where the #8 train ran, and what color it was), drop me a line.
Jason A. Quest said, on 11/26/2011 4:52:00 PM
^ That was a disturbingly informed comment. :)
Torsten Adair said, on 11/26/2011 6:29:00 PM
Just because I act normal doesn’t mean I am normal!
I get a hankering for a topic, like Celebration Florida, or the New York City subway, sate my appetite, and move on to something else which catches my eye. For some, that might be borderline autistic, for others, it might be polymathic.
That’s partly why I am a librarian… I like to answer questions, and help people. Usually that person’s curiosity fuels my own, and thus I learn about “foamers” and “subway challenges”.
How many statistics can one news day handle? DC has just released results from their Retailer Survey which they launched in conjunction with the New 52. As we noted at the time, the survey was aimed at gauging interest in each and every New 52 title, as well as general readership demographics. As such, it represents the most comprehensive reader survey a comics company has made in some time. While it’s very New 52-centric, it does reveal a lot. While DC has released their own bullet points, which we’ve shown below, ICv2 has more info and an interview with John Rood. You’ll want to head over there and digest the whole thing. But here’s the broad picture:
• The launch of DC COMICS-THE NEW 52 galvanized the traditional fan base for superhero comic books: male readers, who were already—or have at one time been—comic book fans.
• The survey results are not a reflection of all comic book readers or the broader audience for graphic novels. This was a survey of consumers who specifically purchased DC COMICS-THE NEW 52 comic books, either in print or digital format.
• DC COMICS: THE NEW 52 appealed mainly to avid fans and lapsed readers. More than 70% of those surveyed categorized themselves as avid fans who visit the comic book store every week. More than a quarter of in-store consumers were lapsed readers. The survey indicates that 5% of those polled identified themselves as first-time, new readers.
• More than 50% of DC COMICS-THE NEW 52 readers were between the ages of 13 and 34. And more than 50% of in-store DC COMICS-THE NEW 52 consumers had an annual income of $60K or less. The data supports and arguably validates our philosophy of holding the line at $2.99 which DCE is committed to maintaining.
• The majority of titles generated strong interest and likely reader retention.
• Avid Fans purchased up to 20 titles out of the 52 titles.
• Digital: of dual mode readers, digital is far from replacing print.
• Impulse buys: Up to four-in-ten respondents reported that a NEW 52 title they were interested in (at a physical store location) was out of stock. Nearly two-thirds made a spontaneous purchase.
Not included in DC’s breakdown: 93% of the respondents were male.
ICv2 has much more on the print-vs-digital metrics, backing up Rood’s contention that digital is still “additive”:
Interestingly the survey did indicate that 57% of the digital readers did read print comics, while just 16% of the print readers had purchased or read digital comics. Also of interest are the top reasons that readers preferred one format or the other. Digital readers preferred reading comics digitally because they provided immediate access (which could mean that many of these readers don’t have access to a convenient comic shop), and they also like the convenience and easy storage and portability of digital comics. Print readers listed collectibility as the primary reason they bought physical copies, but they also expressed a dislike of reading comics onscreen. Rood told ICv2 that the redemption of the digital codes in DC’s
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MAN GOOD THING DC PAID FOR A SURVEY TO FIND THESE SHOCKING AND/OR UNKNOWN RESULTS.
Randy @ WCG Comics said, on 2/10/2012 10:18:00 AM
If you think about it, it’s clear that this had to be done just to shore up the existing base.
I guess it should be a bit heartening that the age range was 13-34. Still, that’s pretty broad, I wonder what the actual age spread is in percentages and what the median age is. Does the number of 13-17 year olds suggest that they’ll replace the older readers that fall away? Does that age signify the usual entry age of new readers, at least into superhero comics?
Alex said, on 2/10/2012 10:22:00 AM
So, in short, the same people who currently buy comics are still buying comics?
Just walk into a comic store and watch for ten minutes and you’d get the same info. There are no women, no kids (I’d bet the vast majority of the 13-34 were 25-34) and the same people who are always in the comic store.
Which means the continued decline of comics, to be blunt.
Marc-Oliver Frisch said, on 2/10/2012 10:32:00 AM
“Does the number of 13-17 year olds suggest that they’ll replace the older readers that fall away?”
98 percent were 18 and older.
Sandy said, on 2/10/2012 11:00:00 AM
1) Don’t forget that many people who tried to fill out the on-line questionnaire were rejected for unknown reasons. I know that happened to me, and I believe it is because I was not already reading many of the titles and/or did not plan to read many of the titles. I wonder how the results would be different if they allowed those people to participate?
2) What about NERAK?
blacaucasian said, on 2/10/2012 11:03:00 AM
Doesn’t this survey also give them a huge idea of where there’s more potential growth? I believe I read somewhere that their plan is to do more of this sort of thing down the line. While the stats of gender and age are a bit disheartening, it also presents a huge area of opportunity and growth, if targeted correctly, for where to focus future efforts.
Jason said, on 2/10/2012 11:33:00 AM
“As much as the comics commentator class might not like this, it does make a lot of business sense.”
That is a smart sentence.
Samir D said, on 2/10/2012 12:10:00 PM
I have to say when visiting Midtown Comics Times Square in New York on a Wednesday, there are young and older fans….mostly male, but some female. Still, that store is not indicative of other stores….as visiting Chameleon Comics near Wall Street on Wednesday, you’d primarily see older male comic book fans.
Still these results are not surprising. For the kids, the only way they know of comic book superheroes is via television, movies, or games. The movies are popular, the television shows (when they are on the air) are fairly popular, and the games (like the recent Batman game)sells millions of more copies than the comics (probably making more money).
The older fans are basically keeping comics alive….but that’s a finite number of years……
Comics will survive, the question is, in what format?
blacaucasian said, on 2/10/2012 1:05:00 PM
I will say this…they won’t be able to fix any problems until they can pinpoint exactly where the problems/potential for growth is. Anecdotal evidence is nice, but wouldn’t likely be taken seriously by anyone in the upper executive levels at Warner Brothers. Rood has said they plan to do more of this research, which is a step more then a lot of the other companies are taking. This data is just the initial step. Let’s hope they can take it, learn from it, and use it to expand initiatives and opportunities that are able to enrichen comics that are out there as a whole.
With no strong base of sales (which it seems they have possibly re-established with their core books right now from Diamond chart evidence) they have no opportunity to expand the market. I think they will keep experimenting with books like the new Dial H book coming out (an interview with Bob Wayne recently said he hadn’t seen a pitch for a book, like this one since Gaiman’s Sandman) and Vertigo books as long as they have a strong core of books they can constantly point back to.
Some effort, even if people think that effort thus far has been misguided in places, is always better then no effort.
Mark Mazz said, on 2/10/2012 1:38:00 PM
Having worked in the Direct Marketing field for over 8 years (that’s mailed offers to an assumed base of potential buyers), I will state that a 2% response rate is considered incredibly successful. Award-winning actually.
So if DC’s campaign for the New 52 actually pulled in 5% “new readers”… that’s astonishing. If they can retain 50% of those new readers over say 3 years, they’ve changed the future of the industry.
Assuming these survey’s are 98% truthful still makes their accomplishment seem note-worthy. If they gained 5% new readers from this, perhaps those advertising dollars OUTSIDE the industry are working. Taking a slight leap of faith here, the industry isn’t in GREAT shape, just the electro-shock therapy has kept the heartbeat going. I would hope that the Warner executives understand the MAGNITUDE of what was accomplished.
Now do it again, guys!
Jon Q. Citizen said, on 2/10/2012 2:01:00 PM
I don’t find it at all surprising that “under 18″ readers are a very low percentage. They have little or no way to get to a comic book shop (which is not near a mall or grocery store, at least where I live), have less money, and more peer pressure toward tech items (video games/facebook/etc.).
The 25-44 age group purchasing the most makes complete sense….I’m sure there are similar numbers in any survey taken by any company that sells “luxury” products. Best Buy? Barnes & Noble? etc. We are out of college, working jobs, have extra money…
These numbers shouldn’t really bother anyone yet, unless when younger generations hit the prime comic-book-buying age group their imaginations are so cognitively challenged from staring at tv/computer screens for so many years, they can’t comprehend reading and enjoying the art medium.
Jon Q. Citizen said, on 2/10/2012 2:04:00 PM
@Mark Mazz……
Thanks for shedding some light on the 5%.
KET said, on 2/11/2012 6:23:00 AM
“One other takeaway: with 25 of New 52 readers under 18 and 7% female, you can see why a new kid-focused Supergirl title isn’t much of a priority for DC. They’re sticking with their base, and concentrating on that 25% of lapsed readers. As much as the comics commentator class might not like this, it does make a lot of business sense.”
Not really, if one is still working from an antiquated business model. DC basically concocted a poll which essentially reinforced their lack of diversity, and their continuing pandering to the existing and shrinking fanbase. No outreach towards other available demographics means they basically didn’t try, despite all of their pre-Nu52 hype that was saying otherwise. Hypocrites.
Wraith (AKA Blade X) said, on 2/11/2012 3:13:00 PM
Not really, if one is still working from an antiquated business model. DC basically concocted a poll which essentially reinforced their lack of diversity, and their continuing pandering to the existing and shrinking fanbase. No outreach towards other available demographics means they basically didn’t try, despite all of their pre-Nu52 hype that was saying otherwise. Hypocrites.
Don’t know if this has been linked to here already, but here’s a CNN article about why the industry sees comics for (and by) women as risky. Interesting reading. And rather sad.
Yahoo Answers….the raw id of our unknowledge….the cry for help in a darkling plain of the unknown. Some lass named Jann wandered in there and asked:
Where can I see DC or Marvel comics online for free?
I want to see those comics, or that style, like superheroes, I’m not interested in Manga
But no one heeded her cry.
So again she wrote:
Additional Details
There most be an online site were you can see them for free, like scanned or something like that
And then, a savior named Natalie took pity on Jann’s plea:
You can’t; I’m afraid you’ll have to buy them. Comic books aren’t like manga, there isn’t anywhere on the internet where you can read them– for free, at least.
No, comics aren’t like Manga.
But if Jann is reading this….check out our Webcomics category…lots and lots of free comics to read on the Internet right there. If you search and search, there are even a few Marvel and DC comics for free on the internet.
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As an infrequent oracle on Yahoo answers, this sort of question occurs all the time. “Where can I read/view comics/manga/anime for free?”
Even though it never earns me a “best answer”, I usually mention copyright, how stealing content hurts and insults the creators, and that True Fans show their support with their pocketbook.
Libraries are good for paper copies. DC and Marvel offer free issues.
Or she can start a blog and be placed on the digital PR email lists! }]
Richard Caldwell said, on 4/9/2012 6:56:00 AM
Maybe this is the extent that Marvel investigates the online piracy issue. Just blindly shooting in the dark on yahoo answers.
Because actually, there is not a comic produced from the big two that canNOT be read online.
Terry said, on 4/9/2012 7:13:00 AM
As a librarian, I’m not quite sure what Wally Strong is suggesting. If a patron had a question about comics apps, I’d be happy to help them — no fit pitching required. But they’d need to have their own device to use them. I’m not handing my personal Kindle Fire over.
Having said that, it would be wonderful if comic book companies would work on library lending of digital comics. We have some Marvel and manga titles through OverDrive, but the selection and usability is limited.
Finally, isn’t there tons of free previews available at most publishers’ sites? And possibly some FCBD equivalents?
Pope said, on 4/9/2012 8:50:00 AM
sorry to tell you, but there is a lot of places to download cbr comics you only have to look for them.
Torsten Adair said, on 4/9/2012 9:04:00 AM
Recent queries on Yahoo Answers, within the last hour:
Does anybody know where I can download hd raw anime?
Can somebody help me find Daredevil #1 (2011) in CBR format download link?
Shin koihime musou download?
Type in “download” as a search, and 1,872,591 results appear.
“download comics” = 2,089 results
“download manga” = 6,781 results
“download anime” = 14,479 results
“download naruto” = 7,233 results
arrowshaft said, on 4/9/2012 9:06:00 AM
Both Marvel and DC do offer a few titles to look at free. They both offer up some titles that are the whole book and some that are the first 3 to 5 pages.
I think both companies would rather have you buy some of the books you like either in print or digital. Still have to make a little money.
scott said, on 4/9/2012 9:23:00 AM
Starbucks wifi or the weekly DC preview book on comiXology.
Chris Hero said, on 4/9/2012 9:34:00 AM
Here’s a real question…why is it so taboo to even acknowledge the pirate sites? I mean, I think we all know it’s wrong from an ethical standpoint; but, it seems like any mention of pirating brings out a parade of finger waggers. Meanwhile, it’s a real thing ravaging all media.
I also wonder how piracy can ever be dealt with if any discussion of it goes straight to emotions. Music piracy didn’t really ebb until someone figured out people will buy songs for 99 cents. The 99 cents isn’t for the song, it’s for the convenience. Anecdotal, but my dad buys all his music from iTunes because, quote, “I don’t want to deal with all that torrent stuff.” And that’s where I see the problem with legal methods…does the price outweigh the hassle of going through the pirate methods?
It’s a real question when finding the free previews from Marvel, DC, and Image is difficult even for enthusiasts who spend most of their days talking comics on the Internet.
rich said, on 4/9/2012 10:44:00 AM
@ Chris Hero
Actually, that’s another argument for purchasing printed products, or for ourchasing reasonably-priced downloads. You don’t know what type of virus or spyware is being downloaded from the piracy sites. Of course, I’ve heard that more legitimate companies are using spyware to track their customers’ purchases, so who knows?
Accessing the free stuff is kind of self-defeating. If you have a favorite comic, and everyone wants it for free, the publisher is going to kill it based on poor sales.
SomeGuy said, on 4/9/2012 10:54:00 AM
I think it’s fascinating that MPAA members Disney and Warner Bros, who own Marvel and DC, will not fund the comic book companies in their fight against free promotion – um, piracy. People from DC and Marvel lament piracy, but their parent companies won’t spend money on the lawyers needed to shut it down. From what I can tell, most scans are downloaded by people in places where it’s not easy to get comics, but it’s easy to buy the movies, and the studios want their licensed properties as widely known as possible. The scan scene has created a free, volunteer worldwide distribution network for movie advertising that has to astound the movie studios. I’m not sure they really want it to end. They’re already operating comics as an almost break-even proposition to keep the properties alive for their movies.
I feel sorry for creators, where 5k in sales can be the difference between a title getting canceled or not. Sales lost to piracy in countries like the US where people can easily buy the comics are negligible, but even that amount is the difference between a title getting canceled or not.
arrowshaft said, on 4/9/2012 11:38:00 AM
I would rather support a local comic book shop or even a legal download site than to download something illegal.
First by downloading free you are taking away from a retailer who earns his money legal.
You are also hurting the company that produces the comic book you have down loaded for free.
If you are a TRUE comic book fan you would support your local comic book shop or digital down load site by paying for the books you enjoy.
In this day and age a lot of people justify getting free downloads crying the company is rich already or they charge too much. Remember if everyone did that why would your favorite company keep making your favorite book if you steal it.
You hurt more people in the long run for your lazy way of getting your book on a illegal down load.
Marco Polo said, on 4/9/2012 12:11:00 PM
God bless Yahoo answers, it gave us “HOW IS BABBY FORMED?”
STAM said, on 4/9/2012 1:19:00 PM
Comic books should be free.
Why are you saying that Stam?
How dare you? Don`t you care about creator rights and profitability?
Yes,and thats why precisely they should be free. The comic books are great advertising to create interest,so they will buy action figures,cloths,and videogames. The real money is in the merchandising. Also if Marvel and DC offer free comics the creators are not getting screwed,as Marvel and DC by law are the creators.
tsk tsk tsk. Marvel and DC should hire me for my vast knowledge of markets and business. Like Milt Romney I know how to make money.
respectfully ‘Stam”
Snoop said, on 4/9/2012 1:40:00 PM
I’m not sure why someone would go to a library for help downloading digital comics. You can just find that information online, easily.
Go to a library to borrow a real, paper comic in hardcover or trade paperback from, and enjoy them that way, without needing to look at a backlit screen all day.
I mean, libraries shouldn’t just be the handmaidens of digital.
Ray Cornwall said, on 4/9/2012 1:47:00 PM
Snoop- As the husband of a librarian, I can tell you that librarians are getting this question more and more. There are library programs that allow you to check out an e-book just like a physical book, thanks to Overdrive. Unfortunately, publishers are getting more difficult to work with as time goes on. But go into your local library, and you’ll see tons of people with Kindles asking how to use the Amazon lending program for libraries…
The Bonfire Agency came on the scene a year ago with some great ideas for giving all levels of the comics industry more information; this month they are spotlighting one of the best, FanPan, a consumer input panel of 500 pop culture users and influencers. It’s free to join FanPan, but brands and products can then avail themselves of FanPan input to test how their products will be received by the highly vocal and internet savvy early adopters.
So yeah, it’s a focus group and focus groups can be a pain in the ass; but in this case it’s a valuable chance for market testing in an arena where a lot of people are simply flying blind.
There’s more info in the PR below, but if you’re interested in having your voice heard, go to the above link and sign up.
Bonfire Agency, the advertising and marketing firm dedicated to helping companies better understand and deepen brand engagements with more than 5 million passionate comic and pop culture enthusiasts, announced today a new phase of recruitment for the agency’s proprietary “FanPan” consumer input panel. Consumers interested in joining the panel may do so online at www.bonfirefanpan.com.
“Comic culture is such an incredibly influential force – not just in entertainment, but in areas ranging from fashion and politics to dining trends and automotive design,” said Ed Catto, co-founder of Bonfire Agency. “Brands want to connect and engage with these ‘firestarters,’ but they need clearer insights into what they’re all about beyond comics.”
Launched shortly after Bonfire’s founding early last year, FanPan consists of a rotating membership of more than 500 representative comic culture consumers of varying degrees of “fan-aticism,” The panel was created amid growing concern about the lack of genuine research into who these consumers are, what they think and what they like.
“Surprisingly, most of what is passed off as consumer knowledge within the industry is self-reflective, assumptive and not very helpful when you’re trying to convince marketers to spend dollars connecting with the ‘geekiverse,’” said Steve Rotterdam, Bonfire co-founder and a former senior vice president of sales and marketing at DC Comics. “This is a demo that tends to be highly opinionated, iconoclastic and elusive. We’ve found that one of the best ways to find out what they’re thinking is to ask them what they’re thinking. Go figure.”
Among the consumers that Bonfire is talking to are members of the Fandom Advisory Network (FAN), a highly vocal, online group of comic fans eager to make their opinions heard. “The Fandom Advisory Network was formed to actively seek input from the entire fan community on the myriad issues facing collectors, so we believe it dovetails well with Bonfire
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This yearly ritual gives wonkish politicos and the journos who cover them a chance to dress up and listen to POTUS tell jokes, while rubbing elbows with a smattering of celebrities. It is the kind of place where Arianna Huffington tells these hilarious anecdotes:
“I remember last year when we had Scarlett Johansson, and suddenly I see her running. I said, ‘Where are you going?’ She was out of breath, and she said, ‘I saw Bernie Sanders,’” Huffington continued. “And everybody was running after Scarlett, and she was running after Bernie Sanders, because she’s a big fan of his. It’s really that kind of company. That’s the fun part of the night. “
Dear lord. Such fun!
Now we get that people enslaved to the dull but essential world of Washington politics don’t get out much. So the WHCD is definitely a social highlight of the year…and certainly obsessed over as some kind of humorous political barometer. But “Nerd Prom,” you see, is a term that was coined maybe a decade or so ago on the Warren Ellis Forum to refer to the San Diego Comic-Con. We’re not exactly certain who came up with it—many credit Kelly Sue DeConnick—but it was certainly popularized by Ellis himself. And used to refer to SDCC for quite a while.
And now Washington has co-opted it! Come on now, Keith and Arianna. It’s not “Nerd Prom” inside the beltway. It’s “WONK PROM.”
This year’s elite celebs were a couple of Kardashians and Lindsay Lohan. Nothing nerdy there. In fact we’d say the while the WHCD might ASPIRE to the nerdly wonders of seeing Peter Mayhew, Harley Quinn, Stormtroooper Elvis, Kevin Smith and Mark Evanier all wandering around trying to find a sandwich…to that we say…IN YOUR DREAMS, Wonk Prom.
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If the Kardashians and Lindsay Lohan were guests in Washington, we’ve got bigger problems than fighting over who gets to use such a silly term as “nerd prom”. Is it really worth “taking back”?
BTW, the American Heritage Dictionary says that “nerd” was originally used to refer to “A person regarded as stupid, inept, or unattractive”. It only later came to mean someone smart or knowledgeable/obsessed in some way. With the inclusion of the “or” in that definition, I think that aspects of “nerd” can indeed cover many celebrities, as well as most people in Washington — maybe even most people in America nowadays.
The nerds have won. We’re all nerds now. We should have been careful what we wished for.
Elayne Riggs said, on 4/30/2012 7:42:00 AM
Heidi, as a veteran of both comics and political blogs, I seem to recall recall the term “nerd prom” came into wide usage by comics geeks and politics geeks at around the same time.
RM Rhodes said, on 4/30/2012 8:45:00 AM
As a longtime resident of DC, I would find the WHCD so much more entertaining if Stormtrooper Elvis was hanging out on K Street with the drivers and the prositutes, waiting for the thing to be over.
I will say this, though: there is a “furry-friendly” nightclub not six blocks away from the White House every Saturday night. If you really wanted your SDCC experience, that would have been the place to go.
Phil said, on 4/30/2012 9:54:00 AM
Reading arianna huffington LOLing a story of Scarlett johanssen chasing down Bernie Sanders somehow makes me want to claw my eyes out.
Ian Boothby said, on 4/30/2012 10:51:00 AM
Washington needs more cosplay.
Jamie Coville said, on 4/30/2012 2:23:00 PM
No they don’t, they are already playing comic book/cartoon characters.
Actually scratch that, cartoon & comic book characters are more dignified.
June is Gay Pride Month in America, with parades gathering in all the major cities to celebrate God’s chosen people as they wave from floats and hang out with Sarah Silverman.
New York had one of the largest parades this year, as you’d expect, with an apparent 2 million people joining the parade at one point or another over the course of the day. It’s also been a year since gay marriage was made legal in the state, and many took advantage and decided to tie the knot in classic Northstyle/whatshisname style. Roving reporter Phil Jimenez was on-hand at the parade today, and managed to catch the first-ever evidence that Wonder Woman… has a sex life. Here’s what he found:
That’s right! While we’ve spent years wondering whether Wondy was more in love with Batman or Superman (or Steve Trevor, I guess?) the answer has been flying under our noses all this time. Supergirl! Who woulda thought it, right?
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But will they raise the children in the Amazonian or Kryptonian faith?
KET said, on 6/25/2012 4:41:00 AM
Huh….thought Supergirl was secretly dating Batgirl instead.
jonboy said, on 6/25/2012 7:38:00 AM
Suffering Sappho!
MBunge said, on 6/25/2012 7:47:00 AM
Doesn’t count. From the color scheme, those folks are clearly from a parallel universe.
Mike
Shark Jumper said, on 6/25/2012 9:45:00 AM
In her satin tights….
fighting for her rights….
Suzene said, on 6/25/2012 11:30:00 AM
“…decided to tie the knot in classic Northstyle/whatshisname style.”
I know this joke was old about five minutes after the wedding speculation started, but I just don’t think the typos liven it up any. Valiant effort, though.
mm said, on 6/25/2012 10:11:00 PM
I say fail…people need to stop thinking they can simply redefine what God intended. Marriage is ONE MAN, ONE WOMAN, and nothing can change that. It’s still sin and perversion, no matter how you repackage it. It should be about what God wants, not what we want. And yes it’s possible to have the urges without giving into them-and no it does not mean you’re denying yourself.
SF said, on 6/26/2012 2:54:00 PM
@mm: Nah, it’s not sin and perversion. It’s just a sweet picture of two normal people who finally got a chance to get married.
Snikt Snakt said, on 6/27/2012 12:44:00 PM
@mm: sorry buddy, but its too late to put that (gay) genie back into THAT bottle!!! :-P
You’re better off spending your time de-programming yourself from the nonsense you’re spouting. Or choose to remain the toxic individual you come across as being.
Do you really think you’re going to wake up one day and gay people will all magically vanish or turn straight?!?
If so, you should continue to stick your head in the sand, denying the reality of current day society, and let others live their lives…
WWSuperG said, on 6/27/2012 2:52:00 PM
Yes….we are MARRIED..!!!!! We love your article….!! Supergirl and I have walk, un-Married in the NYC Pride Parade for many years…and we Finally were able to get married in New York State. We hope MORE superheroes in New York will do the same.
Pendleton Ward signs Adventure Time #6 for the kiddies
If San Diego Comic Con gave out an award for media franchise with the most widely distributed fan schwag coupled with the highest number of cosplayers – this year’s honor would definitely go to Cartoon Network’s Adventure Time. Of course we knew going in that Finn, Jake and friends were going to have a huge presence at the show. There was, after all, an Adventure Time Theme Park located directly across from the convention center at the San Diego Children’s Museum, but to say that the con was literally crawling with little Finns and Jakes is an understatement.
Adventure Time fans also swarmed all of show creator Pendleton Ward’s appearances at the show – from Saturday morning’s standing room only Cartoon Network Adventure Time panel to a signing Ward did for the Adventure Time comic from Boom! Comics’ kid’s imprint, Kaboom.
Behold this sort of hard to hear video cuteness of Ward signing a limited edition variant cover for Adventure Time #6 (on sale at Comic Con only) for a couple of excited, adorable little cherub types…
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Adventure Time is an amazing original show that went begging for a network for years. Even the producer Fred Seibert didn’t believe in it and had to be constantly hounded by his staff to develop the show.
It’s really amazing how people who run television wouldn’t know a good property if it bit them on the bottom while they were drinking out of their gold-plated cappuccino cups. Hooray for Adventure Time!!!
Ron said, on 7/16/2012 2:44:00 PM
Adventure Time totes rocks!
Matt Jeske said, on 7/16/2012 8:44:00 PM
I was shocked by how prevalent Adventure Time stuff was at the con! A great cartoon, and so weird. its a wonderful thing to see.
That outdoor plaza was a great addition (up until sometime last year it was a street separating the the two nearby hotels) for this sort of con, not just adding room for food trucks, but as a place for people to hang out and rest, socialize, hold photoshoots, etc.
While I’d still like to see WonderCon move back to San Francisco, they’ve shown that they can put on a good mid-sized con here in Anaheim, and if they do move back, I like the idea of adding another convention to the circuit the way they were talking about doing this year if they were able to get fall dates in San Francisco.
That said, it also showed that Anaheim, at least right now, can’t handle the parking needed for both Disneyland and a Comic-Con sized event. Wondercon is, what, a third the size of SDCC these days, and it was still problematic at best.
My own recap is still in progress, but if anyone’s interested, here’s my WonderCon photo gallery on Flickr.
Thanks Kelson! I should’ve commented on the parking- you’re right. I was lucky enough not to have to drive, but my friends did have some issues. On the first day they turned up way early and were fine but on the second day they were only a little early and had to park really far away and it made life difficult for them- it’s true.
They expanded their square footage, moving from Hall D (221K) to Halls A+B (292K).
The interior courtyards are a nice amenity. While I expect they might be crowded during WC, during the library show, they were spacious and sunny, and a nice way to escape (temporarily) from the hustle and bustle. There were also some food vendors there.
Parking… Disney’s Toy Story lot is not that far away, directly east of the convention center. $15 for the day. Can the general public park there? Or is it only for theme park visitors?
Torsten, Disney does open the lot for convention overflow and I believe some of the others as well.
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