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If you put Allred on it, you have my money.

If the Gaiman-caused delays on Sandman: The Overture are any indication, Marvel had better have Gaiman turn in all of his remaining scripts for Miracleman within the next couple of months or a year from now, when the reprints catch up with the published Eclipse issues and the unpublished-but-completed Eclipse issue, it’ll start being as late as the average Bendis-written Icon book. (rolls eyes)

Hey, it’s been 20 years since MIRACLEMAN 24. If we can wait that long, I won’t mind a bit if “The Silver Age” comes out on the same kind of schedule as “Overture.”

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Busiek wins.

Busiek speaks the truth.

Alan Moore knows the score, Kurt Busiek knows the music!

About the Morrison Miracleman, Ty Templeton put it better than I can:
http://tytempletonart.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/krazy-kats.jpg

So Marvel has decided to publish Morrison’s Miracleman story even though, by Morrison’s own admission, the story was nixed by Moore himself.
Classy…

I don’t see why Alan Moore’s wishes decades ago have any relevance now. I like Alan but he can be remarkably petulant about his prior work. Grant can be obnoxious, but at least he still… You know, likes comics!

More to the point, Moore wasn’t saying that he didn’t want that one particular MM story to remain unpublished. He didn’t want anyone to be writing new MM but him; it was his gig and he didn’t want to share.

That’s reasonable, at least as long as it’s his gig.

But since then, he stopped writing the series, gave away his ownership share (and thus control of the property, beyond any copyright interest he has in the stories he wrote) and MM has been written by multiple other writers, notably Neil Gaiman, but also a variety of other writers, even including me.

So at this point, the idea that Grant’s script can’t be published, but scripts by Matt Wagner, James Robinson, Sarah Byam, Steve Moore, Stefan Petrucha, Steven Grant and others were just fine…that doesn’t make much sense.

I gotta admit, I’m wondering if these two new stories will be an occasion for reprinting MIRACLEMAN: APOCRYPHA and collecting them along with it…

I wonder if “Triumphant” is in the pipeline. The script and pencils for issue #1 have already been posted online.

Re: Marvel publishing this or that piece of the Miracleman pile – It appears that Marvel wants to milk every scrap of this property they can get their hot little hands on. If they’re publishing the crappy Anglo stories, believe me, they’ll be putting out Apocrypha, Triumphant, Silver Age, Styrofoam Age and Your Aunt Fannie’s Age.

Moore doesn’t like Morrison. That’s what is amounts to.

Since MIRACLEMAN TRIUMPHANT’s first issue was drawn by Mike Deodato, I wouldn’t be surprised if Marvel would like to get him to finish up the series.

Wow, this is the perfect art complement to a character like DOOP!

Not the character I’d expect Granov to do a variant for, though!

I’d buy that. Here’s hoping it doesn’t sit below the radar like the wonderful Allred and Milligan X-Force!

Medusa looks sexier in her costume than She-Hulk does. That’s a reversal.

SRS

Crushed Defenders has to die, but as much as I adore the book, the sales weren’t enough to keep it afloat.

Really hope Doctor Strange lands a regular appearance in either Hickman or Parker’s books.

So bummed :(

I’m with ya Comic Book Candy. The Allred / Milligan X-Force was fantastic.

Defenders has quickly turn into a disapointment. I stick with it hoping it would move away from the very confusing current Omega plot, but instead it kept focused even more on it. I was planning to drop it with issue 11, seems I’ll stay with it one last issue to see if, at least, the ending was worth the wait.

[...] Right, so this came out last week and while I was writing this post I just saw that Defenders just got cancelled. BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO(deep breath)OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. So upsetting; [...]

Fraction is a terrible launch writer. He sells acceptably on well known properties on the strength of the properties.

Give him something new? IT gets bogged down in nonsensical waffle about Captain Nemo. Nobody cares and then it stops.

See Venom/Remender for how to open up a new book successfully.

FF looks great. Gonna be picking this up.

Color me uninterested with Marvel’s Music Chairs Event but these actually look good and fun.

What is with the little “001″ in the lower right hand corner? Issue number? Do they really think they are going to get to 100 issues before another relaunch?

“Is this the last time we’ll get to see a Defenders title?”

Silly reporter! You know better than that. :)

“It gets bogged down in nonsensical waffle about Captain Nemo. Nobody cares and then it stops.”

This. It was at that moment, while reading (I don’t remember which issue) when I literally put the book down and asked myself, ‘what the hell *is* this nonsense?’

I can’t recall ever being so excited for a series, and being so disappointed so quickly.

What’s this? A FOUR DOLLAR comic book starring THE DEFENDERS was quickly canceled…? I am shocked. Shocked!

Well, shocked that anyone at Marvel thought, “Hey, maybe if we make this much, much more expensive than all those other Defenders comics we canceled, it will work this time!”

I thought that was Pixie in a Thing costume.

“What is with the little “001″ in the lower right hand corner? Issue number? Do they really think they are going to get to 100 issues before another relaunch?”

Wouldn’t bet on it. I’d be surprised if FF lasts that long. And FANTASTIC FOUR will, surely, revert back to it’s original numbering when issue #700 rolls around.

If nothing else, I’m glad to see both books are remaining at $2.99. I was worried that the relaunches would give Marvel an excuse to change that.

I liked Defenders but it wasn’t a four dollar like.

both f.f. books look interesting enough to give them a try. have to agree with shark jumper about the book being relaunched (again) before getting to issue 100 (hell, before getting to issue 50 these days). also have to kinda agree with cerebro, that marvel would probably revert back to the original numbering of the f.f. when getting close to issue 700. silly shit all around when it comes to marvel numbering their books.
real shame about the defenders, but i have to admit that this current story is just meandering way too long. they should have been done with the whole thing by issue 4 and moved on to something else. so does this mean the end of the defenders, maybe, or maybe, just maybe this will lead to next years big cross-over event, which will be: THE AVENGERS & X-MEN VS. THE DEFENDERS & GREAT LAKE AVENGERS/X-MEN/whatever the hell they call themselves these days!!!!! yeah, that’s the ticket. it’ll be the greatest cross-over event of all time!!!! loads of cross-overs with main stream books,loads of all new mini-series that tie into the event, and all new relaunches (again) of all main stream books when it’s all over……….. then again, NAH! :)

How is this a story?

Awesome news. X-Force/X-Statix is one of the best things Marvel did last decade.

It was last decade… right?

YAY DOOP WOO!

At least as imporant as Allred: Milligan!

I wonder… do Doop fans deliberately mistype Marvel URLs so they see Doop on the 404 error page?

Marvel has a web site?

Marvel is about to sell me their first comic in several years.

“How is this a story?”

Doop-doop-doopdoop!

I’m about to be dooped into buy a 3.99 comic.

This is a super-dooper comments thread

I did an issue of X-Statix once…Doop is surprisingly hard to draw…!

Does Allred own any of the Doop intellectual property?

@pulphope, why did you decide go work for the Big Two, knowing there miserable track recorders with creator rights?
(i ask this as a long time fan)

JG: Speaking for Pulphope here, who is perfectly capable to answer this question himself, but what is wrong with working for the big two knowing where things stand and getting a reasonable paycheck for doing WFH work? When you ALSO, as Pulphope does, constantly create your own work?

I think it’s a balance of original and WFH that makes a successful career. Certainly nowadays it seems that doing original stuff as a portfolio piece for a more lucrative job in animation or TV is generally the way to go.

Also, who WOULDN’T want to work with Peter Milligan on something? That’s the dream!

ugh, why? It was a fantastic book, why ruin it with fraction? :(

Fantastic Four is a perfect fit for Fraction and Bagley. And that FF book is a lot of fun and I know Fraction/Allred will keep up the quality of that book. Good news all around.

Fraction and Allred on FF?

Damn, might have to pick this up.

I am in awe of Fraction’s Iron Man, so I expect big things here…. and I rarely read Marvel books.

Mike Allred on art will get me to by a FF book.

Granted it won’t be at $3.99 a copy. Rather, I’ll wait until the tpbs hit the bargain bins.

SOLD!

Bagley? Bagley?! Ugh. Pass.

You know what is interesting, so far they haven’t announced a single new title. Ok, Uncanny Avengers and All New X-Men. But I seriously refuse to count those as NEW titles.

Nice to see that FF will continue. The concept of the book is too interesting to be left to the side.

Very hesitant about Fraction on F4. He’s got the mad science, big ideas part down, but his characters always have an unbearable need to be übercool. Perfect for Tony Stark, but it seems like a terrible fit for the F4 with the *possible* exception of Johnny.

Allred on FF intrigues me, though. Franklin and Valeria rock, so if they remain a focus of that book, things could get interesting yet.

FF is good now. Why change it at all with a relaunch? People are going to use the break in numbering to jump off the book.

Allred. Fan favorite who has no sales power. Until recently with Izombie (which is ending through no fault of his own), he couldn’t handle the monthly chores associated with a mainstream title. It’s likely he’ll have to have back-up features in short order to help maintain deadlines, or only do two to three issue story arcs with someone else doing fill-ins. The man in these lights (if they happen) brings nothing to the table other than the indie crowd going “gosh-wow” and then not buying it.

Bagley. Always good. What does this mean for Avengers Assembled? Brilliant is not something worth looking at anymore, as most of the Marvel Icon series are tragically late (Powers, Brilliant, Kabuki).

Fraction: A pleasing and engaging writer who Marvel is stretching way, way too thin.

Restarts. A doomed ploy to try and bring in lapsed readers Marvel should know by now that while there MAY be a short there upwards bump in sales, there is an inevitable catastrophic drop off and weakening of the overall brand (Thor, Avengers, Captain America, Fantastic Four,etc…).

Marvel needs to forgoe the gimmicks they are allowing their marketing department to become reliant on, and just crank out consistently good books. Not 3 to 6 so-so to mediocre ones to a family title in an attempt to pull in more of the collectors desperate to keep their runs intact.

I second chanting MIKE! ALLRED! Will skip on the pom-poms, though.

Wouldn’t give this a book a second look without him involved. If the story is any good, that’s a bonus . . . although I’d rather have him on the regular F4 book.

Any Allred is better than no Allred.

Why is Marvel promoting these books with the name of the writer and artist and a giant word like ‘Family’ or “Worthy”?

Unless you know the Marvel characters – this won’t mean anything to new readers.

Why not just show a piece of forthcoming art instead and let the audience guess who might be doing the books? That would be a REAL tease.

One of Marvel’s best books but I’m tired of (broke from) all the double-shipping and endless cross-overs with other books. This issue is a must-buy but otherwise will be dropping the title.

Excellent. There’s a certain quality level established by Rivera, Martin, and Samnee. Allred is right in there.

Koi Pham is by no means a bad artist, but he’s certainly not in the same league as the other guys who have worked on this book.

Crap. It looks like I’ll be buying a Marvel comic book. (Sad Face).

Okay, first it was Green tv shows: Hulk and Green Arrow. Now it’s ALLRED drawing Daredevil. Red, get it? Dressed in All Red. Hmmm.

I knew something was up when there was a letter from him in a recent issue. Too bad we can’t get him on a regular series like when he did X-Force. That was heaven!

Having Mike on a mainstream book would be fine but I’d rather see him on a creator owned property.

I bet Image could sell a few copies of iZombie …