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Still catching up from my week-long trip in NYC. I've decided I'm more likely to actually post about the event if I write up some shorter pieces rather than attempt one mega-long report. So here's my first!
I love making new friends at these events, which is one reason I try very hard NOT to make too many plans in advance, or hang out with the same group of people throughout the weekend.
Not only is Mike a funny and very sweet guy, he also won top prize in this years SCBWI Winter Conference Illustration Portfolio Showcase!
On the last day of the conference, I went out for lunch with Mike, Russ Cox, Fred Koehler, Robert Gallagher-Rivera and Wouter Brennel:
During the meal, I nagged (yes, I'm embarrassed to admit I did NAG) Mike to start a blog. I pointed out that with his award win, lots of people would be checking out his website after the conference. And look, he started one!!! And he gave me credit. :-)
I -love- Mike's work, and can't wait to see where his career takes him next.
I created this set of comics to help break the ice when I attended my first SCBWI conference (or at least the first in a long time) in 2009, knowing that 99% of the people there wouldn't know me. I was WAY nervous.
I'm reposting the comics here in case they help anyone else:
My advice for anyone who feels nervous about attending for the first time, or is normally very shy and introverted and not great at meeting new people:
1. Be brave and make the first move. You'd be surprised at how many other attendees feel exactly the same way as you do. Introduce yourself to people you sit beside, stand in line with, notice standing alone.
2. TAKE BUSINESS CARDS. Yes, even if you aren't published yet. We're all going to meet a lot of people over the weekend, and taking away a business card from an encounter or introduction will help the people you meet remember you.
3. Have realistic expectations. Don't expect to be "discovered" at the conference.
4. In my experience, you're much more likely to meet new people if you're alone. If you're always chatting and hanging out with the same person or people, you're not as approachable. I'm not saying that you SHOULDN'T hang out with people you like, of course! Just keep in mind that as a group, you're probably not going to meet as many new people as someone who is by themselves.
Good luck!
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Thanks so much to Claudia Osmond for hosting the holiday meet up for the Toronto Middle Grade & Young Adult Author Group! I had a fantastic time: so many great conversations, good food and lots of kidlit/YA talk.
Click the right- and left- arrows to see the slideshow of my iPhone photos:
Hm...just noticed that Squarespace's Gallery feature forces ALL the photos in horizontal mode, which means you're not seeing the full photo in some cases. To browse all the photos, do visit my 2011-12 Torkidlit Holiday Party Flickr set.
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Another highlight from Lost Weekend: the conversations. They sprung up everywhere and without warning, while we were painting, sitting by the fire, helping David in the kitchen, over meals, while we were out walking.
Topics frequently revolved around children's book illustration but also writing, family, food, travel, other work…in other words, LIFE.
As the weekend progressed, it became clear to all of us that this was about so much more than just kidlit illustration info and new business contacts. It was also about mutual encouragement and sharing, bonding and appreciation.
And um, food. Lots and lots of good food. :-)
Each of us ended up taking away something different. One aspect I especially enjoyed: getting to spend more time with people I knew mainly online. Some of the newer Mentees I had only been in contact with via Facebook and had only met briefly in person.
And it was such a treat to finally spend time with Bonnie Adamson, co-founder of Kidlitchat and founder of the KidLitArt chat on Twitter. We had run into each other at SCBWI conventions, but usually only had time to exchange a few words before hurrying off to the next workshop or keynote talk.
And that was another thing I LOOOVED about Lost Weekend. We had a chance to slow down and get to know each other in a much more casual environment than a convention. Although David had some activities planned for us, the schedule was flexible, adjusting to the group dynamic.
Another of many highlights: getting to know David's son Ariel. Not only is Ariel a talented artist but his quirky humour and dry wit enhanced the weekend for all of us. You can see samples of his work at his site, Snakepig.com.
I can't imagine what it must have been like, having a horde of women descend on your house for an entire weekend! Ariel handled it well. :-)
Just got back from a 10 day trip to California and Texas. In California, I attended Lost Weekend: an amazing creative weekend hosted by Caldecott-winning illustrator David Diaz (see above photo). After that, I attended BoardGameGeek with my husband: a five day (yes, I said FIVE DAYS) board gaming convention.
I'll be posting more about Lost Weekend here in Inkygirl, and am posting about BGG in my board gaming blog.
Right now, however, I need to unpack and then catch up with some e-mail...
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We talk about everything from the craft and business of writing to renovation hell stories and family updates. Plus a whole lot of other stuff that I can't possibly post publicly, of course. :-) Anyway, I asked the attendees of last night's get together what they were working on or if they had any news to share, and here's what they told me:
I didn't take many photos, but you can scroll through the ones I did take by hovering your mouse over the right-hand area of each photo and clicking on the right-arrow.
We talk about everything from the craft and business of writing to renovation hell stories and family updates. Plus a whole lot of other stuff that I can't possibly post publicly, of course. :-) Anyway, I asked the attendees of last night's get together what they were working on or if they had any news to share, and here's what they told me:
Thanks to author Lois Peterson for inviting me as a guest to the Festival Of Trees event today. I had a ton of fun wandering around the event, seeing authors give workshops and talks, attending some of the awards ceremonies, chatting with other attendees.
And WOW, I've never seen kids SO EXCITED ABOUT BOOKS. Seriously. The audience reaction reminded of a rock concert crowd...except these kids were cheering and screaming about BOOKS. How cool is that? So inspiring and exciting.
For those who aren't familiar with the Forest Of Reading project, it's a program where students read a selection of books nominated by professionals from schools and public libraries across Ontario, and then vote for their favorite. Unlike most literary awards, these awards are chosen by young readers.
Congrats to all the Forest Of Reading nominees and winners!
I had a lot of fun at last night's tweetup of the Toronto Area Middle Grade & Young Adult Author Group. We've moved to a new location: The Bedford Academy near Avenue Road and Bloor. The place has a laid-back pub atmosphere; I recognized it from when I attended the National Cartoonists' Christmas party (Canadian chapter) a couple of years ago.
Claudia Osmond, Nelsa Roberto, and I treated Maureen McGowan to dinner in celebration for her birthday before the official tweetup started. I think I might make a habit of showing up early for the tweetups to have dinner with other earlybirds; I find it gets a bit noisy later (I sometimes found it a challenge hearingthe person across the table).
Anyway, here's a list of the people at last night's gathering:
I'm participating in Writers For The Red Cross, and am donating a selection of my writer greeting cards as well as a hand-drawn doodle and handwritten instapoem to the winner of the bid. Read more here. Bidding doesn't start until the event officially kicks off on March 1st.
About the event, from the site:
This online event celebrates Red Cross Month (March 1-31). It is intended to raise funds and awareness for the Red Cross and its work in communities across the country. We’re auctioning off publishing-related items and services donated by authors, publicists, agents, and editors. We’ll also have daily guest posts from authors about “What the Red Cross Means to Me.” All donors who give over $25 will also be able to select one free book from a range of books donated and shipped by publishers for the event.
To find out more about Writers For The Red Cross and about the other participants, organizers and bookstore partners, please visit the Writers For The Red Cross site.
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When I first saw the word "takeaways" in people's conference reports, I was confused. What were takeaways? Were they giving out free food?!? I was even MORE disappointed that I had missed the event!
But no, takeaways are key messages you've learned at a conference. They can vary from person to person, depending on their own situations and experiences.
I'll be posting more details about my takeaways from various panels and workshops, but overall my main takeaways were:
1. What's most important: STORY and CHARACTERS. Some panelists listed both while others just listed story, but the message was the same. It doesn't matter what format a book is in if the story sucks. Voice and style can help make good writing, but aren't nearly as important as having a story and characters that the reader cares about.
2. Do the work. Get it written. Don't get too obsessed with the process, or networking and promoting, or all the other extras that can be good but NOT if they're keeping you from doing the work. This is something that has really hit home for me, which is why I'll probably be easing back somewhat from social media. (Ok, I'll still be posting a lot compared to some people, but it'll be easing back for me!)
Both of these apply to both writers AND illustrators -- I'll be interpreting the takeaways from an illustrators' point of view and posting them in the SCBWI Illustrators' Mentees Blog soon.
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Not sure how many of you used Inkspot or subscribed to Inklings back in the early days of the Web (whoa, that sounds so ANCIENT now, doesn't it?) but one of my columnists was Mark Fowler. Mark did the ASK THE LAWYER column. SOOOO great to finally meet Mark in person.
I strongly advise you to check out Mark's blog, which has a ton of great info for writers. Mark says he is also open to suggestions about topics he should blog about, but says that he's unable (for legal reasons) to answer questions that are specific to your own situation e.g. individual advice.
Mark is also on the board of The Center For Fiction, the only nonprofit in the U.S. solely dedicated to celebrating fiction, working every day to connect readers and writers.
Anyway, check out the view from the floor where he works:
THANK you, Mark, for taking the time to get together!
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One of the biggest challenges of attending an event like the SCBWI Summer Conference, I found, was having to pick between simultaneously scheduled workshops.
A former editor at Harcourt, Halverson already had a wealth of editorial experience when she began writing her first novel while pregnant with her triplet sons. In her Ultimate Checklist workshop, she consolidated years of expertise into ten simple tests.
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I've always appreciated those who post "takeaways" after they attend conventions: nuggets of wisdom that they took away from the event. Everyone's takeaways are different because everyone has different levels of experience and goals.
I'm going to be sharing mine over the next little while, as well as linking to any others that I can find. If you have takeaways or convention reports of your own to add, feel free to post in the comments section!
Jon Scieszka: Tales Of A Picture Book Writer: Do's, Don'ts, Maybes
- Look up the top 100 books listed by School Library Journal and read them.
- Don't do what someone else does. Do what YOU connect with.
- Read bad books, which can be educational.
- Read children's trade publications and kidlit blogs.
- Most picture book manuscripts by new writers can be improved by cutting length by half.
- Don't try to follow the market.
- Read everything in your field that you possible can: library, bookstore.
- Learn and read in prep but once you start to actually WRITE, then forget about trying to follow every rule and industry blog, and just focus on WRITING.
- In retrospect, Jon is glad that his early submissions got rejected.
Many thanks to the SCBWI for the Illustrator Mentorship Awards; the six of us learned SO MUCH at our mentorship sessions on the weekend. We also had fun hanging out with each other, exchanging tips and advice, and we plan to keep in touch after we all go home.
In fact, we've decided to launch a joint online project soon...stay tuned!
Derek Molata, Ian Keeling, Rob WestonWent downtown yesterday for the monthly tweetup of the Toronto Middle Grade and Young Adult Writer Group. As usual, I had a ton of fun as well as learning a lot about the publishing industry.
Last night, I recall feeling a bit tired and glancing at my watch, thinking it was around 9 pm... and being shocked to find out it was 10:30.
This may seem like nothing to you, but I'm so not a night person and am usually in bed by that time.
Adrienne Kress and I wield our vegetables.
The mix of attendees changes every time because of everyone's schedules. This time around, I met Derek Molata for the first time. Derek's a YA/adult science fiction and fantasy writer and (like most of the Torkidlit types) is on Twitter.
Really nice guy and wow, interesting publishing industry stories to tell (!).
Cheryl Rainfield, Jo Swartz & Megan Crewe talking with Adrienne Kress.
I feel very lucky to be part of such a great group. Everyone is so supportive and encouraging of each other. Thank you, Claudia!
Here are some of the other attendees at last night's gathering:
One of the many reasons I’m glad I joined Twitter: the Toronto MG/YA Writers’ Group. Claudia Osmond started the #torkidlit group, approaching Toronto area middle grade and young adult writers on Twitter and suggesting we get together in person.
We meet once a month at a pub/restaurant in downtown Toronto. Although the focus of our group is on authors of MG and YA books, we are supportive of anyone who helps create children’s literature in the Toronto area.
A tweetup is an event where people who Twitter come together to meet in person. Normally we connect with our friends online after we have met them. At a tweetup you meet the people you might only otherwise know virtually. Like finally putting a name to a face, a tweetup is a great opportunity to really connect with the people in your network and share just a little more than 140 characters at a time.
I enjoyed having dinner at Fresh with Cheryl Rainfield beforehand, catching up with all the recent excitement in her life. Cheryl’s book launch for SCARS, for example, takes place on June 24th, 2010 at the Toronto Rape Crisis Centre/Multicultural Women Against Rape (519 Church St. Community Centre, Auditorium Room 206) at 6:30 pm.
Thanks for the recap, Debbie! I had a great time last night!! And your iPad looked awesome! Just wishing I could have spoken with everybody! Musical tweetup, next time??
Karen Cushman’s talk was another of my favourites at the 2009 SCBWI Conference. Karen’s 1995 novel The Midwife’s Apprentice won the Newbery Medal for children’s literature, and her 1994 novel Catherine, Called Birdy won a Newbery Honor.
Here are some of the notes I took away from her talk, “In Dreams Begin Responsibilities.”
Karen didn’t read many classics when she was young, choosing only what touched her. As a child, she tried to read every book on the shelves, from A to Z. When she discovered a subject that interested her, she’d study it obsessively.
She didn’t start writing until later in life, mainly because she felt she didn’t have much to say. She only started thinking about writing shortly before she turned 50. I like the term she used here: “post-menopausal zest.” Heh.
She advised us to ignore writing advice, even hers.
Here are some typical writing advice standards which don’t work for her.
WRITING ADVICE THAT KAREN CUSHMAN IGNORES:
Keep your butt in the chair.
Karen disagrees, saying you don’t have to be at the computer or at your desk to be working. She’s working when she sits doing nothing, or when she’s taking a walk, etc. Inspiration often strikes when she’s nowhere near her writing chair.
She usually writes reclining with a cat in her lap.
Write every day.
She says this may work for some people, but not for her. It takes her a long time to get started, and she’s learned that she can’t force herself to write if “it’s not coming.”
Karen says it’s important to make room for other life stuff: work and non-work — it’s all part of the writing and living process. Both production and repose are imporant.
Never edit your first draft.
Again, Karen doesn’t follow this advice. She edits and polishes as she writes.
Karen starts every day by reading over what she’s written and then polishing recent pages before doing new writing.
Her analogy: the long jump. It’s important to take a few steps first before you make the jump.
She finds the first draft always the most difficult. It’s slow going, and she sometimes has to stop. Revision is far easier for her, so she’s gotten into the habit of trying outlining first instead. She lays out the chapters, then adds a few sentences to each chapter, then expands on those sentences. This makes the process more like editing, which is easier for her.
You need to differentiate between your editor’s hat and your writer’s hat, and you also need to differentiate between when you’re doing editing and when you’re in critic mode. Don’t try to do both at once.
Don’t read other books while you’re writing.
Karen ignores this advice. She says she HAS to read.
Her own advice: read 100 books like the one you want to write. Read what you love, then ask yourself why you love it.
Karen disagrees. She says you should write what you want to know. Write to find out what you believe in and value.
Cut 10% of what you’ve written.
Karen says she usually adds to her first draft. “I am, to a fault, concise.”
Her first draft is usually only 50-60 pages (”a bouillion of a book”). She learns what her story is about AS she writes the book.
SUMMARY:
Karen advises writers to make your own rules but suggests some of her own:
1. Show up.
2. Differentiate between your mundane and your writing life.
3. Slow down. Let ideas percolate.
4. Keep showing up.
5. Keep submitting.
6. KEEP WRITING.
7. Pay attention. Look around, stuff yourself with sensations. Look for what you love or hate, and put this down on paper. Find out what stimulates your creativity and do more of it. Join writing groups, attend conferences, read writing blogs. If you pay attention, you’ll be ready for serendipity.
8. Tell the truth. Karen says she loves doing research. She only ends up using 10 percent of what she finds, but the other 90 percent gives her “a place to stand.” Strive for emtoional truth, things you are morally certain of. Books ought to be hopeful.
ON PUBLISHING
Karen still wonders “What if I fail?” when she’s working on a new writing project.
Publishing is pretty much out of our hands. It doesn’t matter how brilliant your book is — it may still be rejected.
If publication is the only reason you’re writing, then you shouldn’t be writing.
Wow, I wish I could have been there, she is one of my favorite authors!
reege_lafai said, on 8/19/2009 10:03:00 AM
What incredible advice. It’s nice to know there are a few writers out there (well, at least one) who have become successful while doing things differently than everyone else. I’m off to think about my own rules as a writer and to bask in the relaxation of knowing I will do my best and not worry about publication.
Writing is truly a wonderful life.
cynthia newberry martin said, on 8/19/2009 10:39:00 AM
Nice post. I haven’t read Karen Cushman’s books, but I like her approach to writing. Also appreciate her late-in-life start. My favorite thing: make your own rules. Thanks for sharing your notes!
Linda Cassidy Lewis said, on 8/19/2009 10:41:00 AM
Wow! I do LOVE her writing advice. Especially about ignoring the advice to “Never edit your first draft.” The way she describes her method of polishing before she moves on is exactly like mine.
I also write lean and have to add, not cut. And I love the research part, too.
Go, Karen!!!
Victoria Mixon said, on 8/19/2009 11:58:00 AM
This is wonderful! Writers should especially listen to that last line. Have it engraved in their desks. Make it their mantra. There is no reason to write–not publication, not fame, not fortune–except that it’s simply What You Do.
Thank you, InkyGirl! I’ll link to this from my blog.
Victoria
Jane said, on 8/20/2009 4:59:00 AM
I feel totally refreshed after reading all of the above. Today Karen not only inspired me, she has re-energised my enthusiasm… Her tips, some of them I already use… Its confirmation for me on a personal level… I have been given permission all of this is ok, it sits nicely in my brain…. Also her late start has given me hope and that feels good too! Thanks Karen.
AngelJanesworld
Leslie said, on 8/20/2009 10:59:00 AM
Thanks for sharing this. She sounds so funny. I was so sad to have had to miss the SCBWI conference this year–especially when I can commute! Grrrr.
Love your stuff, Debbie, and so glad I found you on Twitter. You opened a huge portal for me to writers, writers, writers!
One of my favourite talks at the SCBWI conference was Wendy Loggia’s keynote speech, “I Wanted to Love This: Seven Reasons Why Your Manuscript Gets Declined.” Her talk focused on reasons she rejected manuscripts that were almost accepted but not quite ready.
Wendy is executive editor of Delacorte Press, an imprint of Random House Children’s books. She edited the Sister Of The Traveling Pants series by Ann Brashares as well as the Gemma Doyle trilogy by Libba Bray. In preparation for the talk, Wendy went through her binder of rejection letters and found that pretty much all the rejection reasons boiled down to seven points:
1. Nice writing but no story. The characters are at the same emotional place at the end of the book as they were in the beginning. Wendy found that this was a common problem with authors’ first books. She says that having a good plot is essential. Ask yourself, “Why would a bookstore customer choose and buy this book?”
2. The mss is too similar to other novels that the editor has worked on. Wendy warns authors against submitting books that very similar to others on the editor’s list; you may be setting yourself up for a negative comparison, especially if the other book is very good. Even worse if the other book didn’t sell well.
3. Your readership isn’t clear. Who will want to read your book? Your book is too “quiet” or doesn’t have enough commercial appeal.
4. The writer seems like a difficult person to work with. Wendy always Googles an author’s name before offering a contract. She says she may be prompted to change her mind about signing up an author if they share too much information in their blog, if they tend to blog a lot about how hard writing is, if they blog about being rejected many times, if they publicly bash a book she’s worked on, or if they bash a colleague in the business who is her friend.
5. The editor can’t connect to your voice. You may be doing too much telling instead of showing. Your writing may be too predictable.
6. You’ve submitted your work too early, before it’s fully polished. Especially in this economic climate, always take the time to present yourself in the best light possible. Make sure your work is ready before you submit it.
7. Your project won’t stand out on a publishing house’s list. Wendy said this is happening more and more. A book may be rejected to avoid in-house competition.
Hope this helps writers out there!
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I really appreciated this entry — I wasn’t able to attend the SCBWI conference this year, and this was a session I would have loved to have attended. Thank you for sharing! — Jeni Bell
Kate Fall said, on 8/17/2009 12:18:00 PM
Excellent stuff, Debbie. Thanks!
Christina said, on 8/17/2009 11:17:00 PM
What a great list to mull over. There are so many variables but this defintely clarifies so much. Thanks for sharing.
Nominated you! Hope this doesn’t get caught as comment spam. Just wanted to let you know you were the first writing blog that came to mind when I read about this on Twitter.
janflora said, on 8/18/2009 6:41:00 AM
i second that nomination
thanks for sharing these SCBWI notes…it’s like we were there virtually! This one is especially interesting to me as i begin the submission/rejection cycle again especially #4
Inkygirl said, on 8/18/2009 8:25:00 AM
Laura and Jan — wow, thanks so much for the nomination. I truly feel honoured.
Cindy Dillon said, on 8/18/2009 12:02:00 PM
Thank you so much for sharing this. I am just learning the craft of writing and the fear of rejection is a biggie for me. Hopefully this will help me not to get rejected.
Lee said, on 8/18/2009 5:37:00 PM
A couple of thoughts:
1) A different editor’s take on the subject of rejections: http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/004641.html (scroll down to section 3 in the top-post). Ms. Loggia was being complimentary to her audience by assuming that their manuscripts would all make it to at least point 8; however, given that this was a professional writers’ conference, that may been an accurate assessment. Take heart in reading about the many submissions that don’t reach that standard.
WRT Ms. Loggia’s point 1, “The characters are at the same emotional place at the end of the book as they were in the beginning” — this is a huge issue in lit-fic, but less so in other genres where the plot is expected to be external to the characters. Ideally, you want both an external plot and some internal character growth; neither is a fully-adequate substitute for the other.
Bob Guest said, on 8/19/2009 8:34:00 AM
This can be applied to all types of creative pursuits. I’ve certainly seen it in the musical creations of my friends and myself.
Point number 2…. Perhaps that writer should consider his/her hand at writing romance novels.
Point number 6…. Speed doesn’t always work against you. It took Handel less than three weeks to write Messiah
YRG said, on 8/19/2009 11:32:00 PM
This list is disgustingly commercial. It should be retitled “7 reasons why your commercially-tested manuscript isn’t high concept enough to be sold to the masses and marketed with movie tie-ins, picture books, and other assorted marketing materials”.
Manuscript critiques at a writers’ convention can be nervewracking, so I’m posting this entry mainly for those who want to know what to expect when they sign up. This year, it cost US$100 extra for a mss critique. While participants were guaranteed that we’d get a review from someone in the children’s book industry, there was no guarantee that we would get an editor; our critiquer could have been an author, for example, or a literary agent.
What to expect, from my experience this year:
When you pick up your registration packet on the first day, you’ll be given a slip of paper with the name of the person who will be doing your critique, plus a date and a time. Be prepared for the fact that you’ll have to miss some of the regular workshop programming because of your critique.
Make sure you show up on time, and check in with the volunteer taking attendance. When I arrived, there were already others waiting in chairs lined up against the wall in front of the critique room. To stave off nervousness, I chatted with some of the others waiting for their turn.
When my name was called, I was pointed to the table where my critiquer was waiting. We introduced ourselves and sat down. I already knew who she was, of course; as soon as I found out her name, I reread her bio in our registration packet and did some research online.
“So, I read your manuscript,” she said. She paused, and then said, “I’d like you to tell me, in your own words, what your story’s about.”
And this is where I realized I was woefully unprepared. Because I had to include a one page synopsis (which I had slaved over), I hadn’t expected this question. I had also been working on two other projects since I had mailed in my mss and synopsis, so my head was still wrapped up in those stories.
With a sinking heart, I took a deep breath and stumbled my way through the Worst Story Description Ever. I could feel myself starting to perspire as I rambled incoherently, cringing at how horribly I was conveying my ideas. From time to time she’d ask a question, and then a question about my reply to that question. She never once referred to my manuscript, and I realized that this was a critique of what I was saying, not what I had written.
From her questions, I could tell that she hadn’t read my story or synopsis that closely. Perhaps she had been short on time, or my mss had slipped through the cracks and was only noticed at the last minute. In her position, I know she must have had a ton on her plate from regular work, plus all the mss she had to critique for the conference. If mine -had- somehow been missed, however, she only had to tell me. I would have understood completely if she had to e-mail my critique after the convention, or maybe met me for a few minutes later in the weekend.
During the entire half hour critique session, she didn’t say a single positive thing about my submission. Based on my less than eloquent description of the story, the editor made some suggestions on how to improve the story. Because of my poor explanation, the advice wasn’t as useful as I had hoped. Some contradicted advice from another editor.
When our time was up, I thanked her for her time. It was only as we were walking to the door that she said in an offhand way, “You’re a good writer. I just had problems with the story.”
AUGH. Why couldn’t she have mentioned this at the beginning of the critique? It would have helped immensely.
When I looked at the mss she returned to me, there were only two brief notes written in pencil. One was to question the placement of a comma. The other questioned something one of my characters had said.
In the end, I realized that this mss critique session would have been much more positive and productive for me had I been better prepared. Even if I hadn’t signed up for the mss critique, I need to be able to describe my writing projects eloquently and briefly. ALL my writing projects, not just the most recent.
Even if the editor hadn’t had time to read my mss carefully, at least then I’d have a chance to “re-sell” my novel and get feedback that I could use. I should have come prepared with questions not necessarily related to my mss, in case it became clear that the editor hadn’t liked it or only skimmed it, perhaps about her publishing house or the industry or anything else I could take away with me and use.
I don’t blame the editor. Although it would have been nice to get at least a bit of positive feedback at the beginning, it wasn’t her job to coddle the writers she was critiquing. This particular editor is highly respected and I’m sure other critiques she did went well.
So here’s what I’ll do differently the next time I sign up for an mss critique at the convention:
- Be able to describe/pitch each of my writing projects in a minute or less.
- Reread the project just before the convention, esp. if it’s been a while since I’ve worked on it.
- Come with specific questions for the editor just in case it becomes clear that she either didn’t like my story or hadn’t read it that closely.
Also, don’t be disappointed if you don’t get an editor for your mss critique. I talked with many other writers at the convention who had authors or agents but were very pleased with their sessions, coming away with pages of detailed notes and suggestions, encouragement and references.
Hope this advice helps the rest of you! If you have any more mss critique advice or experiences to share, feel free to post below. All I ask is that you try to keep your comments helpful/positive. Thanks!
10 Comments on SCBWI 2009 Notes: Things I Wish I Knew Before My Manuscript Critique, last added: 8/18/2009
Thanks for this post. I’m especially impressed with how you took a situation that was somewhat negative and came away with constructive ideas for the future. It would have been easy to blame the editor (and while I think it’s great that you can see things from the editor’s perspective, it does sound as if she was negligent; this is a paid service she’s performing, after all!), but you learned something about yourself and the process – and then shared it with us! So, thanks. Great post.
Wendy Nelson Tokunaga said, on 8/15/2009 11:22:00 AM
This is all very good advice. I would suggest that in general, even if your manuscript isn’t ready yet for querying agents, that it can be a helpful exercise to write a query letter for it. This really gets you thinking about what this editor asked, “What is your story about?” Having to distill your idea into a short description that will also pique interest can be harder to write than the ms itself! But it can be very illuminating.
HWPetty said, on 8/15/2009 11:56:00 AM
If it’s any consolation, I prepped a verbal pitch of two of my projects when I had a critique at a regional conference. But the moment I sat down with the editor, I FORGOT THEM BOTH.
*headdesk*
The sadness of that. On the up side, she was really well prepared on her side, and let me blather on until I got to the parts that she liked.
That said, I so appreciate your positive attitude on a disappointing crit session.
Kimberly said, on 8/15/2009 3:47:00 PM
Great advice here, thank you so much for the helpful insights.
I had a manuscript critiqued by five people in the publishing industry (it was part of a contest associated with a writing conference), and my goodness the differences between the critiques! I find the critiques from authors to be the most useful. They know how to offer the good with the bad and be supportive and encouraging even as they point out the weak spots.
Sounds like you had an awesome learning experience there!
Fencing Bear said, on 8/15/2009 7:08:00 PM
This sounds like a job interview or a sales pitch to me more than a critique. I do blame the editor: she was not critiquing what you’d written, only the way in which you pitched it to her. This would be fine if, for example, she were your teacher and wanted to make sure you had understood what you’d written, but surely for a children’s book (!!) the point is to make the text understandable to the reader, not to have to describe the book to the reader in person. Very good for you being so positive, but I’d want my money back.
Melissa said, on 8/16/2009 8:34:00 PM
Hi, all the best there. Hope one day, will be able to read that book of yours. Do you mind if I add your link to my page? Would be great to read of a writer’s literary journey.
MS from Malaysia
Rita said, on 8/16/2009 11:11:00 PM
Thanks for this great post! I related to everything you said: the experience of waiting, the stumbling through the pitch, the realizing of how one should maximize their session. This post is a great service for everyone out there.
Cheers!
Rita
Kate Fall said, on 8/17/2009 12:25:00 PM
I know for sure I’d be too nervous to remember what I wanted to say. Thanks for the reminder to be prepared. You really found a way to turn a disappointment into a valuable learning experience.
Jeff Faville said, on 8/17/2009 3:27:00 PM
Debbie, you are such a positive person! I really admire that about you. I live in cynical New York, where everyone feels its their natural right to gripe and complain. You hit the nail on the head: this is a learning process, and it’s all about our education. For you to gain something from this situation is wonderful, and speaks volumes. BTW, I was one of those people complaining about getting an author (remember, I’m from NY) who ended up getting an extraordinary critique, and a road map for revision. I’m on my way to making my ms. the best work possible! It was great to meet you in LA and hopefully I’ll see you at the NY Conference this January!
Sheralee Hill Iglehart said, on 8/18/2009 1:40:00 AM
Debbie, your site is A+.
I, too, was fortunate to get an extraordinarily good critique person for my new book at the SCBWI 2009 LA Conference.
Went back to my room and did the wonderful revision ideas he expertly mentioned.
I’m grateful for my wonderful critique person!
Are you going to the NY Conference January 2010? I am planning to go. Hopefully, I’ll see you there and we can again, meet over lunch like we did August 7th in LA!
I had never heard of Sherman Alexie before the conference but after hearing his inspiring keynote talk at the beginning of the conference, I bought The Absolutely True Diary Of A Part-Time Indian.
Sherman could so easily be a stand-up comedian in another life; he gave such an entertaining talk. Yet he also moved many of us to tears with his story: he’s a Spokane/Coeur d’Alene Indian born on the Spokane reservation with water in the brain (hydrocephalus). His mother was warned that her son would likely suffer severe mental retardation but against all odds, Sherman came through just fine.
He loved reading when he was a child, and read John Steinbeck’s Grapes of Wrath by the time he was five years old. He’s won a ton of awards including the 1999 O. Henry Award, the 2000 inaugural PEN/Amazon.com Short Story Award, the Poetry Society of America’s 2001 Shelley Memorial Award and the National Book Award.
Some take-away quotes/info from his talk to writers and illustrators (from my notes):
“You have to be sure this is the career you want. People hand you their lives on a daily basis.”
Sherman says that if you really want to be a writer, you have to “be prepared to neglect your friends and family” if you’re doing it right.
Kids may not like your book, but one percent of them will be changed forever.
I’m thrilled that you discovered Sherman Alexie! My husband is part Crow Indian, born on the Crow Reservation in Montana, and we’ve been fans of Alexie for a long time. If you haven’t already, look for Reservation Blues and The Lone Ranger and Tonto Fistfight in Heaven. I haven’t met him, but maybe someday. . . Thanks for featuring him here.
Inkygirl said, on 8/15/2009 8:04:00 AM
Clara, thanks so much for posting. I’ll have to check out Sherman’s other books. I hope you get to meet him in person someday; he’s so friendly and easygoing, and a -wonderful- speaker.
Joyce Lansky said, on 8/15/2009 9:40:00 AM
I read Sherman Alexie’s book about a year ago and found myself laughing out loud in several spots. His male character has such a great voice. Sometimes he’d say things that I’d never have the guts to put on paper. “The Absolutely True Diary of a Part-Time Indian” is a great book!
tanita said, on 8/15/2009 11:49:00 AM
*swoon*
I, too, discovered Mr. Alexie before he wrote for YA. One of his books had a teen protag,, and his tough, tough experiences made the publishers market it as an adult novel. I’m so glad that this one was considered YA enough for others to discover him, and someday I will actually stand …across the room from him, hidden in the shadows, and continue my desperate fangirling from up close… across the room.
*sigh* He is SUCH a good writer.
Midknyt said, on 8/15/2009 1:48:00 PM
He spoke at my university a couple years ago and it was the first (and only) time I’ve given someone a standing ovation at the end. He’s one of the best speakers I’ve ever heard. Glad you liked him.
Carla Ulbrich said, on 8/15/2009 5:12:00 PM
thanks for that! I feel slightly less guilty for neglecting my friends and family.
I lack the time to do detailed session reports, so instead I’ve decided to post excerpts from my notes that I think would be of most interest. The SCBWI, by the way, is the hard-to-pronounce acronym for The Society Of Children’s Book Writers and Illustrators, a wonderful organization I discovered through Lee Wardlaw.
Which reminds me, I really need to renew my membership for CANSCAIP, the Canadian equivalent!
Anyway, the conference always begins with Lin Oliver telling us about the attendees. This year, 911 people enrolled fulltime (as opposed to those who attended only part of the weekend), with 712 women and 120 men. There was some stats ambiguity because of certain names that didn’t make it clear whether the person was male or female (e.g. “Leslie, Pat, etc.).
Members were from 47 states, with exceptions including Wyoming, Delaware and Vermont, plus 12 countries outside the U.S.
Almost half of the attendees having already been published in the children’s lit field.
There were no public stats on ages but I noticed a very wide range in attendees, including a teenager in the YA Voice Masters’ Class Workshop I was taking with Krista Marino.
I’m doing posts on the conference as well. I’ve got three more planned. I LOVED your comics about the conference, and my FB friends thought they were pretty funny, too!
I am loving everyone’s different takes on the conference. I think it’s because it helps cut the pain of not being in LA, just a little! haha!
Thanks for the recap, Debbie! I had a great time last night!! And your iPad looked awesome! Just wishing I could have spoken with everybody! Musical tweetup, next time??